Yet the runes could have been made to fix this and no epic access to weapons for enhance. It’s more than just “it’s classic”.
Shamans are super strong right now what are you talking about?
OH NO DRUIDS HAVE A WINDFURY-LIKE ABILITY THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD.
Relax and wait for the next phase.
You’re getting the authentic Vanila experience now instead of complaining just enjoy it.
I don’t even think they need an epic weapon, just a slow axe comparable to darkwater talwar.
It’s not parse. Those are just figures to show imbalance. It’s about enjoying the game on even footing if you have 2 sides. If one side has it’s defining class as god mode over the other then that is going to impact the game. Duh. At this time a raid geared ret pali will beat a raid geared enhance shaman 100 out of 100.
lol this is laughable, shaman is the worst class right now. The only good spec they have is tank and arguably the warrior tank is better with how much single target the warrior does.
Ah, I see you have spoken and enhance is really strong. Glad for your feedback.
There is no even footing, especially at all points on the leveling continuum. Expecting that and then getting upset about its lack of presence is just weird.
Shaman are poised to be in an excellent place based on P1 runes. Enhance is the only spec in need of love. And they already hinted at enhance love in the coming phases
Yes there we go again…just wait, it will be better. Im sure after everyone rerolls alliance and they get shaman way down the road, it will be all better.
If you’re rerolling to dominate 25 meta, you’re a clown
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Says every class when they are god mode.
Again, you have nothing to back this up. I get it, you want paladins and alliance to continue being superior but its making issues for the game as a whole. One must only look at the populations to see this.
They know their arguments are weak but they keep regurgitating the same nonsense.
Seems the alliance are full of clowns then, most of them rolled that faction to be on the dominate side.
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Entire server: Boomkins, Hunters.
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I think he believes ele will be good because elemental fury + sp gains will make lava burst do high numbers. This could be true or they could still just suck. Noone knows because we don’t know what’s coming out next phase.
Anyone rolling boomkin at 25 is set for immense disappointment.
Anyone playing shaman and continuing to do so will be playing an immensely powerful class soon.
Even without lava burst, ele one shots everything at 60 in era.
That’s why there were so many of them and they were just wrecking meters lol. Go gaslight somewhere else.
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Again, you’re mistaken. It one shots one thing, every 3 minutes. Which is only really good in PVP, every 3 minutes.
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Outside of that window, you are still chunking people for 1/4 their max life with a single spell.
So, tell me you’ve never played era shaman without telling…
No, I take it you are talking about the Seal of the Martyrdom? That’s not how it works, and it’s in the same slot as DS so it’s not worth taking.
The seal deals 30% weapon damage every hit so lets say I do 100 damage auto attacks on my Pally and we can do over this. 30% of 100 = 30 now of that 30 damage the paladin will take 10% of the damage inflicted so 3. Party and raid members will recover 20% of the damage I take from this seal so not much mana huh?
With judgment it just increases the damage to 70% and the damage the pally takes to 10%. It was ok while leveling, but once mana pools got larger it lost its value IMO.
it should not remove the good bubble but does it not remove BoP?
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but purge and spells that remove debuffs and dots will remove the last one applied first and not at random right?..
Shaman players undersell their class and ignore they cover all 4 rolls like Druids. Shaman are a great class with bring great utility and can do good in every roll. DPS is not as good as it should be in P1 but at least for Ele that changes in P2. Enhanced should be getting a 2h rune in P2 and also become much stronger. Outside of healing Shaman > pally IMO. The only reason I’m not playing a Shaman atm myself is because I want to finish my Alliance alts first before I focus Horde side.
I find it funny how much they hate on Paladins when they have nothing to do with you, there’s no competition as they are not on the same faction. Pally DPS is Mid. Not to mention they undersell kings being given to both factions.
They are not, Shaman is a great class, stop underselling it. Having a purge is massive, I hate facing a good shaman who knows the press the button on my pally. I’d gladly exchange something a Pally has with a shaman for that ability alone.
This is not true to start, it’s not common to find Holy Pally atm as Priest just dominated healing. They seem to be about as common as mage healers in my experience. Looking at warcraft logs for Crusader strike shows them pretty average in population, there simply are not enough Pally to fix groups like you say. Far behind Hunters with like 1/3 the pop. Then 1/2 or less for Rogue, Warrior and Druid. They are really only ahead of the casters that are harder to play so less people play them. The shaman pop being low is not a Pally issue but people not enjoying the class, the class theme, and the lack of PvE DPS. Even when Shaman are strong they never get crazy numbers as most people just don’t like the class.
Paladin has always been one of the most popular classes in WoW and any other game with a holy knight-type role. Even when they are bad they are still played by a ton of people. With the new rune system making Ret and Prot work rather than memes a ton of people started with pally. After some time those numbers fell off and Pally doesn’t seem as popular anymore as many of the Holy Pally went priest and Ret went Warrior, Rogue, or Hunter.
Holy Pally brings nothing to the group in SoD atm. Healing is not great and it’s better to bring a Pally to tank that can buff.
Exactly. I find it so odd how shamans on the forums are so obsessed with Pally and oversell them when it’s the one class that they have no competition with as they are faction locked and Pally is also lacking in DPS compared to the other classes, just not as badly.
That’s not 50%, and there is a larger gap between warriors and Pally than Pally and shaman. It’s fine to ask to be better next phase, while you are good in PvP you do suck as a DPS in PvE just like Priest but your obsession with paladin is silly.
People Do tank in PvP, someone needs to run the flag and Paladin can’t bubble there so it’s Druid or Shaman that fills the role best. Shaman are extremely tanky in PvP while still doing good damage and bringing utility.
Ret is viable but they are behind Druid, Hunter, Rogue, Warrior, and Warlock and tied with mage for single target with the mage much better in AoE.
Ret starts well with quest gear and does well without gear but once the other classes gear up they shoot ahead. there are only like 4 Ret in the top 1k on Crusader Strike.
If you count all classes Ret has 5 ahead of them, by a good bit too especially the top few. Then mage is about the same with only Shamana and Priest being under them.
Sorry you don’t know the game. That is your problem, though
Why are you worried about what the top 1% of players are doing?