What are Shaman getting in P2 to restore the balance?

The problem with that rune is pvp, its a no brainer for ele and resto shamans.

You mean just like Locks, the actual strongest tanks in PvP?

People were already playing Shaman tanks on Era, it was usually just only at low levels and increasingly rare over time.

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Is it? They have to trade Sham Rage, which is a huge amount of mana sustain.
Ask anyone who actually plays shaman in pvp, and they’ll tell you not taking sham rage is a trap.

Way of Earth PvPing was good for open world 1v1 and low level BGs while leveling.

At 25 with the aura nerf and as more and more people got gear, the mana sustain became much more important.

Way of the earth is more that shamans dont do much at level 25, so might aswell turn into a block of hp to stall.

90% of the value a shaman brings to wsg is purging fortitude

Ret was fixed from not doing much. Enhance was not. Comparatively enhance dps is garbago atm in pvp and pve. Why the disparity, and no adjustment?

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uhm fast wand??

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Paladin is right there with two get out of jail free cards.

Shamans are never getting buffed because aggrend mains a dwarf ret paladin.

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Chain heal should balance the horde vs BoP… Wisdom… Lay on Hands… Bubble… Freedom…

/snicker…

Seriously, they have Disney appeal easy mode. Which is why they are full. Horde is for gamers and non sheepeople.

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Mana tide is a 31 resto skill - they don’t get it passively. And even if it was given to every shaman it wouldn’t fix many of the issues Shaman has - for one - the huge damage imbalance even with a melee build. A Melee only Hunter can do more damage than a pure melee Shaman build. That’s the most obvious signs the class needs to be raised up.

I’d be okay if Shaman got wild strikes, windfury and could use weapon stones - that would climb at least 10% of the 20-30% imbalance they currently face.

Elemental just has terrible damage and terrible mana issues, resto gets overshadowed by all other healing classes due to almost zero mp5 gear/spirit doing nothing.

I believe at 50-60 they will scale well, but it’s a long road to there.

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Elemental one shots everyone in pvp

Wouldn’t be surprised given the state of ret vs enhance and ret favored itemization.

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With 211 spell power the combo will only do about 1500 damage

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Ya almost feels like alliance getting WF was for his paladin to have it LOL

pretty sure an overloaded lava burst would do around 1k with that much sp

nothing theres too many of them and 2/3 specs are fine

I don’t understand why people say “it’s only 25, it doesn’t matter.”

That makes sense for era realms, where it’s understood that 25 will pass but 60 is forever. But on seasonal realms it’s different. They’re more like arena seasons. And the whole thing disappears at the end.

If level 25 doesn’t matter in seasonal then you might as well not bother starting until phase 4. But if 25 is the temporary cap, then it does matter until that cap is lifted.

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For real, I know there is 25% damage reduction in WSG but other than not having the epic weapon my Pally is BiS and shaman only takes 80 damage per hit of mine lmao.

Being the best tank not good enough for you? Upset about AFK threat so strong you can grab a beer?

Enough of the complaining just complain. There are plenty of shams doing great.