There is an overwhelming layer of irony in this post considering what you’ve written in this thread, while simultaneously ignoring that shamans are the best tank in the game atm with the lowest skill floor.
This is somewhat true. Not melee and not brawling you can use sham rage pretty easily. If you are sweaty tho, i just item rack a second pair of pants with shame rage and swap them in every minute for mana. But sham rage is nuts for caster mana.
This is not even true. I don’t even know how this got started. The best tank, and go check logs, is warrior. They do the most DPS and hold easy threat over any dps besides enhance shamans with dual rockbiter which NO group is bringing.
Majority of speed runs, warrior tank. The reality is once a tank brings more damage and utility, and doesn’t die and holds threat. That’s the new best tank. But as usual people post on the forums without looking at any data.
Warrior tank skill floor btw, you tank in dstance and just your same rotation. Some of the highest dps tank parses are warriors doing the entire run with a 2h on with d stance turned on. But yeah let’s live in your world where the second lowest dps tank in the phase is the best tank.
Get your head out of warcraft logs fool
2h warriors dpsing in d stance are not tanks
They are zoomers trying to speed run and parse who put the burden on their healers
War tanks with shield are not fine
People 2 handed tanked everything to 60 in original classic. All these new bads came in with sword and shield went into a dungeon and cried about tanking because they were trash then and trash now.
But hey even warriors using devastate can pull 200 dps on logs with is 50 dps higher than enhancement shaman tanks.
Get your head out of the sand.
Nah, just don’t lose your coat when we are leaving this limited phase for good in short order.
Shaman has a great deal coming to them in P2. The runes from P1 will transfer nicely.
Shamans windfury totem should do the same thing as druid windfury. Although, I do think it would be cool to have shamans windfury personal buff, stack with druid windfury though.
In 2019 maybe but no, not in original. Perhaps you weren’t there.
The speed run mindset destroyed the 1h shield tank, not the original design of the game
Alright well, we don’t get the luxury to play the game in 2004.
probably nothing, and you’ll like it.
If shaman gets nothing else, they will still be S tier raid healers and in group PvP at cap.
This lvl 25 complaining is problematic.
Nothing is fun to play at 25. Nothing.
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Have not ignored it. Said over and over healing is fine, tanking is fine. Enhance dps is the worst dps. I don’t want them to be the best, just competative. Lowest represented dps spec in the game and 1/4th of ret representation because they’re so bad.
Going for feiry wrath for one spell on a cd and is shorter ramge and needs flame shock which is dispellable and casts slower and has a travel time meaning the overload damage is heavily staggered; Is probably not worth it in in the long run
Yea tbh, anyone complaining about shaman right now is nuts. Spell hance is S tier in WSG right now, to date my highest overload Lava Burst, with earth shock combo is over 1000. We are also incredibly tanky with Way of The Earth and probably the best front line in game right now with a pocket healer.
Earth Bind can cc an entire team with one GCD and trip your your opponents. We also have stupid melee damage while duel wielding rockbitter weapons and still priotizing spell power. We have the fastest cd for interupts and overload healing wave can 1 tap you to full HP.
People need to stop being so one dimensional. Vanilla WoW was never about straight up dps, we have other tools in our kit that make us incredibly strong at 25 and when we hit 40. Lava burst, Ele devastation chain lightining/earth shock will be devastating.
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Shamanistic rage bot is fun brother 
Yep thats the issue, this generation doesn’t want to use their brain… just click and it does everything for them.
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If you had the warlock and mage debuff on the target sure. Otherwise your topping out at around 750-800 in wsg. But then what, your massive melee in caster gear is around 40dps in wsg. Weaving in es/fs shock would put you around 80 dps. You’re oom after 15 ish seconds cause your not running rage or ws. Your healers are literally wasting mana on you because after your initial lucky burst, your not a threat, just a mana sink for your team. Your es is at 0 range so you cant stop range heals, your melee dps would take 30 seconds to kill any decent gear player, and once your mana is gone your being laughed at by the pali doing double your dps. But don’t worry your earthbind totem will save the day. I wish wsg had the damage healing output displayed so you could see how little your actually doing in comparison.
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Shamans are like barely above rogues in terms of how much people like seeing them when they load into wsg. Calling them s tier is wild.
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I’ve played Shaman since beta. I can solo most players in a duel as resto. I’ve long gotten over the omg one big crit 12 year old playstyle. Resto is good and will be, elemental will not be as good as people think with fs being 20 yards, no insta cast lavaburst, every warrior getting pummel, every shadow priest getting silence, pali death bubble, rogue kick, yadda and on. We might get a viable 2h enhance but they’re not adding 12 more runes. Probably 3 or 4 for 1 slot. Those runes are going to have to be s tier runes to save dw and 2h enhance and make ele shaman as good as people think they’ll be.
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While I don’t think people should be worrying to much about spec balance at level 25, I do understand why from a pure dps point, that both Ele and Enh want to be competitive and viable in raids, which they currently aren’t and where they are trailing by far more then they should be. While yes much or some of this should likely go away as the cap raises to level 40, I do see and understand that concern, and the fact that they can be viable or even strong in PvP, doesn’t change that.
Hopefully all classes and dps specs will be viable end game, and where dps gaps between the top DPS spec and the worst DPS spec will be a bit closer, and where we don’t see the same things as we did in classic, where you get a few tanks, healers, support classes and a small Zerg of warriors that make up every raid.