And quit being obtuse. It does not matter who wins AV. If both sides kill Belinda/galv and each take 4 towers, then both sides get max honor per hour. The “win” on drek or vann is inconsequential.
Get on board with the solution, stop back capping, stop interfering with the galve kill and causing turtles and only then will alliance want to actually bother queuing up.
Take it or leave it, but stop complaining about queue times that you are causing.
Yeah, you are one smart individual.
You are missing the pvp part. Even more examples on why alliance is the sh!tty side.
The AOE grinding on the roads part. Let’s just stop pretending AV requires any skill in pvp whatsoever to win.
Enjoy your two hour queues since you cannot comprehend such simple solutions.
Just stop whining since you refuse the solution.
There actually is and its called Defense… something the alliance has a big problem with. I mean, having 10+ people afk doesnt help neither. Cant win a bg 25vs40.
I mean…
Every BG has the same number of horde and alliance players. The issue is not that honor gains aren’t equal. 10 alliance players and 10 horde players gain honor in every WSG. 15 and 15 in every AB. Etc.
The issue is there’s significantly more horde players queueing than alliance players, so that honor is being spread out over the larger playerbase instead of being concentrated on individual players.
If I queue as alliance and get those 3 games, the same number of horde players and alliance players are present. The gains are quite equitable. They aren’t as concentrated, because it’s not likely to be the same horde players in any of the games, but they are equitable (outside of course of the usual winner gets more than loser paradigm, which I don’t beleieve is your issue).
Horde is spreading the same resource (honor from bgs) among a much larger population. That doesn’t mean that alliance are getting more honor- just that it’s concentrated more.
Here we go with this again.
In classic, horde won because the map. Not because they’re good.
It’s the map.
I think you might become the first person I have ever put on ignore on these forums.
Imagine thinking anyone cares if you put them on ignore. 
That’s fine. Good luck with your queues, and I do hope that you’re able to AOE grind on the roads in AV and claim that to be some measure of skill going forward. It’s sure nice to win AV sometimes now that the map is more balanced though.
Yeah, cuz we care what a lv10 has to say. Stop hiding behind an alt.
Who is “we”? You have a rat in your pocket? . Or do you just desperately need the validation of others to “back up” your opinions?
It’s a solution, you just don’t like it.
The worst experience of my life was transferring a character to play alliance for the first time ever in Shadowlands to play with a irl friend. What sucks, is as a day 1 classic player who reserved names like Redrum and Carl, etc. I’m now forced to deal with trash tier retail players not understanding how threat works in classic, or clogging up the BG queues just to go afk the second they see a ally premade. Its absolutely infuriating and Im so close to leaving and finding a new game to play. Blizzard cant release a new patch on time for retail so us true hordies are forced to deal with retail refugees.
I actually can’t tell anymore if these kinds of posts are trolling or not.
So i have to waste blocks and he gets to WOTF?
Sounds fair.
Hahaha talking about what’s fair and equitable
Is it fair that horde have had every zone buff for pretty much all of TBC so far on my server? Is it fair that I would regularly die 10+ times trying to get to the BRD entrance? Is it fair that we regularly can’t even use summoning stones because there’s always 10+ horde there ganking?
You get your advantages from being Horde. We get our advantages from being Alliance. Enjoy your queues.
Oh man if only that were the case now, or even if it were like actual TBC with battlegroups.
Can you imagine some battlegroup that has 4-5 of these horde dominated pvp realms? Watching 6hr queues for a Warsong would be hilarious.
This. Horde have to wait an hour to get into a BG, but alliance had to wait an hour to do literally anything in the game.
I played alliance for the entirety of phase 2 on Skeram. The only mode the game had for alliance during this time was PvP. You could not farm, grind, level, or even explore without being ganked over and over again by swarms of Horde. Ironforge had roaming ganksquads throughout the day. World buffs were a pipe dream that you needed to organize with multiple guilds to have any chance of making it to the raid with them intact. Running a dungeon required a solid 30 minutes to an hour of corpse running to get to the dungeon.
A lot of people will argue that this doesn’t compare, as you aren’t “stopped” from doing anything… it just takes longer. Despite the fact we couldn’t do anything in the world, of which there was and still is a lot that is in the over world.
Sitting in a queue doesn’t stop you from doing any of that.