Alright, then I apologize for blowing up at ya. Satire and sarcasm can be difficult to detect in text since it has no tone. I guess you did your job too well. Also, I’m kind of a blockhead sometimes when it comes to subtlety on the forums. For more evidence of that, review my initial exchange with Fizzlemizz.
As for your point, I understand where you’re coming from. But I would hope that even you would admit that the impacts of things like Questie and DBM on people other than those using those add-ons is heavily delimited when compared to dungeon finder and LFR. When considered in conjunction with the fact that things like Questie and DBM did exist in Vanilla, I can’t come up with a reasonable argument to claim that people shouldn’t be allowed to use them.
Perhaps, but their functionality was quite different, at least for a good year or so if I recall correctly. It took me about a year to reach BRD and that was the first time I was hearing people talk about things like Damage Meters, DBM (not sure what its name was back then). Questie I didn’t know about until BC tbh. I do remember me and a few of my friends throwing around coordinates for quests however, but never arrows guiding us.
Also sorry if im coming across a bit rude. I am in my cups atm.
If anything I think my want is based on my personal experience of what was the actual base game with little to no additions. Even back then I felt Addons streamlined and ruined many of the things I enjoyed, but now that they are coming back bigger and better I feel its going even further. It makes me a bit sad.
In 8.1.5 you used to be able to look at the results of a FrameXML dump. There’s a method where you use Console mode to dump a copy of Blizzard’s interface code. It used to be in the FrameXML.toc file of the interface dump.
Unfortunately it looks like Classic is going with being based on a 8.2.x client and I don’t know where to look for 8.2 onwards. It’s certainly not in the comparison dump Omegal posted. Dumping the interface code meant you didn’t need to have a Beta account to extract it - as long as you had an updated beta client and could trick the client into opening for you (yes there are black magic ways) you could extract it.
We will have to rely on someone who can log into Classic Beta , on the official classic beta realms and get that number for us. They can do this by typing (or copying and pasting) the following command -
/dump GetBuildInfo()
and giving us what the 4th line it returns. Or doing this -
/dump select(4, GetBuildInfo())
Which runs the same command and selects the 4th line
While I know as much as anyone else, post release Classic updates will likely get their own PTR. Beta client updates will happen as when the beta progresses.
I have no idea how that works and I would need a method that is consistent across time and release channels (e.g. _retail_, _ptr_, _classic_beta_, etc.). On top of that, it has to be something that can be automated (i.e. does not involve launching the game and using its console).
Thankfully, my frenemy Fizzlemizz did furnish a roundabout way to do this.
Described here: https://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=332150
You can go back on the forums of 2006-2008
My main asked for vanilla got a crazy response by someone like you. Again I don’t mind UI addons but if gives QoL it should not be in. We have done this. I have lived this.
You know what you could start a wall of no. It’s not the first time and I will probably be back here a few years down the line. Saying something about QoL. Meh. History repeats.
QoL was in Vanilla. Bagon for bag merging, Autosell greys, questie for questing, titan panel for tracking, auctioneer, dps meters, wardrobe for gear changing. ALL QOL FEATURES, ALL IN VANILLA.