Cope harder, it’ll only make it funnier when you’re wrong.
So the entire player base needs to be handicapped? You can do your chat spam. While I Insta que as a tank
Your never going to group with strangers if your friends are offline. Lets get real now. Your going to farm mats make gold, do pvp til your friendas log on.
But if the majority don’t want rdf they would still be in lfg.
I meant as a relative to the rdf crowd advantage/disadvantage relationship. Clearly trying to lfg when rdf is up and running is going to be less exp/hr
Analogy: If you offer everyone a free $1,000 whenever they want, the economy is ruined regardless of whether you choose to personally accept the payment or not.
But isn’t LFG all about socializing? Exp/hr has no place in a social environment
Counter point:if the majority doesn’t want rdf you’ll have plenty of people to group with still.
Don’t want rdf?
Vanilla is right there
No, the socialization is incidental to the goal. When you provide a method of maximum efficiency that discourages socialization, there is loss.
There already isn’t socialization beyond courtesy chat.
Barring guild chats and the like.
I like that said that because it cuts to the heart of the matter. Even those that dont want rdf because “social” still want other things out of the game.
They dont lfg dungeons because they enjoy larping. Though the rp element it adds is a factor. And the game design encourages rp and socialization, even if our personal experiences and how we interface with rdf might contradict that idea.
A mojority of anti RDF players run in large guilds with a close knit team to spam dungeons with. They just love seeing other no so fortunate players suffer and be less fortunate then themselves. They will never spam LFG because they never need to.
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We were doing so well, man. ‘Don’t want RDF? Play vanilla’ is exactly as meaningful and impactful as ‘want RDF? Play retail’.
Can we just not and avoid this whole bishbosh?
I dont know that because right now there is no rdf and i dont know what every member in a 1000 player guild wants.
I mean you compared flooding an economy with cash to less social players being able to dungeon. I thought we were hyperboling again
I specifically didn’t play vanilla or tbc because I didn’t like the tools in place. That doesn’t mean I went into the forums screaming it all be changed. Then the anti rdf crowd came in and botched what would have been blizzards biggest cash cow
Instead of paying blizzard. I’ll go back to playing free wrath servers. And a lot will follow
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I mean im for rdf with icc, so i completely understand your frustration with people not wanting rdf at all and pretending they cant understand how others might take that as a middle finger after having waited patiently and excitedly for this rerelease.
I gave an analogy to help show why I consider ‘just don’t use it, it won’t hurt you’ to be an inane argument.
You’re right, everyone that doesn’t want RDF implemented is arguing against it so that you, specifically, will have a bad time while we sleep in beds of dungeon loot. Completely sensible assumption.
I dunno man. In the interview the lead dev said the classic team agreed before vanilla was released that RDF was antithetical to the point of classic in the first place (in reference to a possible WotLK classic release in the future). Here we are.
If RDF was in the game from the start. You would not hear anything from the Anti RDF group. They would just remain quiet and do their dungeons in thier preorganised guild groups. Because they now have a soapbox to stand on you hear them.
Blizzard can also be quoted saying they wanted all of classic (that’s vanilla to however far they get) was supposed to be an authentic recreation.
That means rdf and queable anywhere bg’s with ICC.
We were given queable bg’s early than told politely to f ourselves when it came to rdf