An extra 3$ an hour is an extra 3$ an hour my guy.
Finding groups isn’t my issue (in classic. Pops are MUCH higher than they used to be). It was ease of access. 6 years I played warmane, mainly tanking heroic rdf when I wasn’t raid logging or pvping. I’m going to say hello etc wether I get Ported to the dungeon or not.
Spamming every 70 warrior I just /who’d “hey can you tank insert dungeon here” isn’t gameplay to me
Not to mention I go from 13 ms to 300. 300 in pvp is unplayable
I dont think it has anything to do with social fabric of the game deteriating as a result of RDF. Its some thing else. Makes no sense not having RDF when you can just ignore the RDF and still make your own group.
When players join a guild a majority of the socializing happens between guild members via discord and guild chat.
Respect. I’m a night owl myself but still work ‘normal’ hours, so I’m just tired all the time and don’t get the extra pay. 
Group finder is intended to prevent needing to spam LFG or cold call whisper people to force a group to form. You’re saying that at max level on a medium+ populated server that there simply are no tanks in group finder at all? And tanks aren’t available in your guild?
And yeah, the ping change is rough. Give/take kind of thing.
Why do you guys think that the community cant come together and agree that RDF must come out with ICC, not before and not after. And on future servers and SoMs that timeline should be preserved to maintain the integrity of the game flow. Seems like the best of both worlds.
You’re aware the argument against RDF is that it changes the gameplay for everyone, not just people that are using RDF? Ergo, ignoring RDF isn’t a solution?
From experience? The tanks exist. But the mindset “I don’t tank for anyone but my guild” also exists
It’s why LFG or RDF I’ll be able to sell my tank booty for 200 gold a dungeon.
So us weird tanks that like getting flamed for everything in pugs get “Insta ques”
My post history shows that’s exactly what I want. I only point out queable bg’s because if you have one you bring the other. Otherwise arguing like this ensues
Me queuing for rdf doesn’t break your ability to manually form a group though? And if the “majority” don’t want rdf you’ll still have the majority of the player base to group with.
Ill take your word for it. I dont really research people I talk to and their post history, though maybe I should do that more often to figure out who the trolls are.
I just think the clear compromise is ironically Blizz putting this dog back in its crate and stop playing favorites. Releasing RDF with ICC is objectively the most neutral solution. And at some point Blizz has got to ask itself if its really necessary to keep dividing its community up over nonsense decisions.
New Blizz thinks its smarter than old Blizz and cant even do the zombie plague event right. Its just sad to watch.
I’m not claiming that you being able to RDF would mean I lose the possibility to manually group (although it’s reasonable to speculate that organic group formation for dungeons would become rarer, as RDF would be the meta path of least resistance reducing the pool of… you get my point here I’m sure).
The posit from anti-RDF posts is that RDF facilitates a change in gameplay philosophy that hurts the social environment that we were looking for in classic. This is a position that’s currently shared with the classic devs, to my understanding.
Absolute crap. No way does ignoring RDF affect you in any way. Explain to me how it affects you if you choose to ignore it and make your own group.
Smaller pool of players, no?
Making me feel like a broken record in here, man.
I had a whole post up about it earlier today but blizzard decided it was spam/unnecessarily unrestful. 
I literally don’t have the time to type an analysis for everyone that pretends that ‘changing a core gameplay mechanic’ doesn’t affect the game if you just ignore the mechanic. It’s an absurd position to suggest and frankly, I’m tired of hearing it.
No wont affect you if your making your own group because you will already have your own pool of players.
Sounds to me like you have no explanation.
But to pull points from your own argument. You wouldn’t lose a pool of players because you have your entire social network you’ve already developed that doesn’t want rdf. Y’all can group together and I’ll que rdf. We’re both happy
You are an entire clown if you think you specifically are entitled to enough of my time to repeat the things I’ve already said.
Still no explanation
Still a clown. I can keep this up for at /least/ another 10 minutes.
Seems kind of handwavy logic to me. If your friends are offline, now your “pool” is gone. Whats left is a smaller pool of players.
Also, your dungeon experiences are less efficient than in the RDF, so you are putting yourself at a disadvantage.
Just throwing these things out as they came to mind in less than 5 seconds.