"We" won't know if delves "succeed," and that's ok

It’s literally in the preview my guy.

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Yes, because of the difficulty. You won’t find any of those people saying “Heroics should be way harder than they are and have all the mechanics present”. (At least, not meaning it.)

It makes me sad though because I like solo content. I just wish Blizzard could be like, okay, we recognize that this content will not increase MAUs to the same extent as X Y or Z, but we’re going to sprinkle it into the game as a little extra spice/variety to keep our players from getting bored with the same old same old.

It’s why Brawler’s Guild worked so well, and we were all fine with Brawler’s Guild not awarding gear. I doubt many casuals even know what Brawler’s Guild was. It was fun though. Instead we’re going to get delves, which are probably going to get nerfed and abandoned all because Ion feels like he has to tie a power carrot to every little thing he adds to the game.

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Except for Hexos. :scream:

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I don’t suspect levels 1-8 to be particularly difficult, just harder than anything solo players have encountered thus far. Levels 9-13 are basically brawler’s guild esque.

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Hopefully no Hexos…

  1. The vocal chunk who complain that there should be better rewards available to them for doing a harder version will also be screaming from the rooftops that the casuals/solo players who we were told are the main demographic should get no meaningful rewards for doing them.
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Low-key that’s part of what Brawler’s so fun. The shared torment. And after you get out of the fight, being able to hang out and chill while waiting in queue and talk to other players. People rezzing and buffing each other. Seeing other peoples decked out armor. It was just sort of peak MMO game design.

Obviously some fights had some issues especially for some specs but overall it was an amazing piece of content and I utterly hate that it has been abandoned the way it has.

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Had Vulpera been available back then I think I wouldn’t have been traumatized as much, but Hexos didn’t leave a lot of maneuvering room for a big Tauren.

P.S. I didn’t like Tempest at the arcade back in 1981, either.

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I made a sticky note arrow and stuck it on my monitor.

I very much “know my lane” when it comes to group content and when I find content that is too hard, I’m extremely happy to accept that I’ve hit my limit and concentrate on things below that. With solo content, it won’t be any different.

I appreciate your oppenness and maturity when it comes to content, I also want to add that while I understand why you chose to use this phrasing as its commonly used, I don’t much like it. To me it implies a degree of othering / derogatory overtones that I dislike and feel often drives the conversation in less productive directions when brought up.

No mark against you, to be clear, just a strange quirk of language and socialising. We need better words for things.

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But they have the same access to rewards as anyone else who completes the content. If harder versions get better loot, everyone can get that loot. As long as the easier ones give approximate rewards for the difficulty, that’s meaningful just like it is everywhere else in game.

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It didn’t, still works that way but thats still a time/movement mechanic

Gotta be honest I don’t want delves to drop gear I care about getting as someone who gets week 1 KSM and raids mythic, got enough on my plate and I’m looking forward to chipping away at these things because they’re fun not because I’ve got a quota to fill.

Time and movement are very different things though.

A fair opinion, but a personal problem and not really a great reason for everyone who isn’t pushing like you to get nothing out of them.

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Don’t complain about em or they’ll delete em and give us nothing to replace them.

:pensive:

Nothing? Bliz already said they’re gonna give heroic raid ilvl (Hero track) from vault. That’s not nothing.

Personally I think the reason they stopped at hero track / champ track farmable is they lack the confidence to create solo content that is going to offer an equal level of difficulty to other myth / farmable hero track content for every role and spec.

Don’t worry the elites will have a lot to say about content not made for them. They get all our stuff killed.

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