I should’ve added /sarcasm after the first part of my post.
The Dragon Soul was returned, and the timeline was set right again, without our meddling.
About the only Caverns of Time dungeon that may not have been reset from our actions is the Stratholme one, and I’m honestly not 100% certain it wasn’t…
Stratholme didn’t need our presence deleted. We were part of Arthas’s vanguard that went in with him to help purge the city. The only thing required to repair was the memory of the dragonkin that showed up.
Yeah, most seems to miss my point when mentioning the Caverns of Time.
I don’t have the full context, just these leaks and for what i see, we are not facing the Infinites in these quests.
For the Caverns of Time, we are tasked to prevent the Infinites to alter the past and we are only tagging along the events in order to stop them.
In the case of Amber Kearnen and Alexstrasza, we are not tagging along the events to stop the infinites, we are provoking them and the difference is not so small.
As an example, instead to follow Arthas in Stratholme, you impersonate him via magic and it’s you who gave the order to purify the city to make sure that the event happens, instead to stop the infinite to alter the past.
And these is where i see a problem:
IF we don’t cross path with the infinites in these quests, why are we going there in the first place?
Does this mean that the bronze dragons have altered the timeline to suit their vision (or rather the Titan’s vision of the Timeline)?
And regarding my personal view on these two quests: Making us actors of past dark events instead of just being witness is crossing the line.
Our characters weren’t involved in the first place and i feel that like Tel drassil, those quests are only there for shock value and not at the service of a narrative.
Just change them:
I want my dragon riders back so nope won’t do that.
We literally go and make sure Arthas finds the plague grain in Stratholme.
Because these events are not how events happened. The Infinites are not the only ones trying to change things. Regardless of the cause we are not suppose to let the original timeline change.
A good author could make this more compelling and for more then shock value.(admittedly Blizz can fail at that)
Personally, I would love to see a boss fight against the infinite where they hurl at us all the things we have done to preserve the timeline. And by extension it would be awesome if someone(like Chromie) inevitably mentions that we ars going back in time and doing thesr thing because they keep messing up time.
You are not getting them back.
Having gone through horde equivalents of this kind of thing, it’s really not enjoyable and any “greater good” premise doesn’t make it feel less rotten.
At that point, it’d just be all horde sins, since blizz made the alliance so morally correct and righteous that the alliance has very little sins to be ashamed of 
Nah, I’m not trying to make this a horde VS alliance thing. Just that what Zerde thinks is a good idea is something that’s played out several times already and I think it’s been detrimental each time.
Canonizing the player character of both factions as an accomplice to SA would be awful, and no amount of story deflecting is going to make it more tolerable.
I know. I was mostly joking. Sarcasm doesn’t really translate that well to text and I tend to forget that sometimes. But I agree that cannonizing certain things that we as players did probably isn’t going to go over well with people
I wish I could say the same for you, but honestly, I’d feel bad for any community you’d join.
Someone’s keen on getting another forum vacation…
Anyways, yes, the entire point of the Caverns of Time quest chain is that we help the Bronze Dragonflights save the moments in time that are under attack by the Infinite Dragons so that they cannot alter the events of the past.
They (the Bronze Dragonflight) are the ones who set the timeline right (such as making sure Taretha Foxton dies because without her death Thrall doesn’t kill Blackmoore and destroy Durnholde Keep). In this quest chain series we’re doing the exact same thing. We’re helping Chromie ensure that the timeline continues uninterrupted. Because while it would be nice to save Amber Kearnen from an assassin’s dagger and ensure that she doesn’t go to Maldraxxus (which is where you can find her in Shadowlands, as a member of the House of Eyes). We do not know how badly the timeline would be thrown out of whack if we did that. So Chromie and the Bronze Dragonflights ensure that the event in question (and others) happens.
I for one actually enjoy the game and its stories for the most part (Most part). I dont willingly play a video game full of things that I hate and then demand they all be changed and “fixed” justified by flimsy moral platitudes in a fantasy online video game. If you had your way this would quite literally be the most boring video game ever. And then youd just move onto the next thing to corrupt and tear down.
You can’t know that yet.
You’re not getting them back.
The Dragonmaw are not going to ever be in the same position they were in during the events of the Second War. Ever.
Dragonmaw dragon riders made the Horde cool. Superior to gryphons in every way. Rylaks and Wyvern are lame.
Dragonriders are cool.
Dragonriders created through slavery/forced sexual intercourse not so much. Which is what the Dragonmaw did during the Second War.
That’s never going to happen again.
This is just done in bad taste. Admit it, it is.
Now, if they want to keep this quest in game, then change it. Alex eventually escapes right? How about instead of us helping the Dragonmaw keep the DS so she doesn’t escape early, we instead help her escape because the infinite flight wants to stop her from escaping. Quest is still “there” in some form but now the player isn’t helping her remain a slave, but rather help her escape. Infinite flight can come in and try to screw with it, and we stop it.
It’s basically how the Bronze flight time shenanigan dungeons work anyway.
Can anyone give me a quick rundown here?
No because that’s not the Infinite’s MO. They always take actions that seem good and noble in the short term. Like killing Arthas to stop him from being Lich King, killing Medivh to stop the Horde, etc. This is no different.
Infinites being benevolent is a new turn. Back in tbc they were just trying to ruin the timeline.