I honestly worry about you judging by the fact that you see nothing wrong with the quest in question.
It never should’ve happened or even been thought of in this day and age
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Alexstraza being enslaved is not the worst thing we did for the bronze dragons. I agree with Zerde here.
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I wouldn’t say moral panic, just unnecessary discomfort being used. I said before that I think with the vaguer nature of the dragons from when that happened to the dragons we have now, and they weren’t thinking about how that situation changes a lot between giant lizards and the full sentient and intelligent beings we know them as now through exposure to their characters. You could get the same outcome from retconning it just into the enslavement of her already laid eggs/whelps, and holding her to ensure their loyalty or whatnot.
This just sounds like they’re too close to that point, with talking about her still being in captivity and not freeing her it centers that storyline in the quests. If they kept it like what the arthas one sounds like where you had to stop someone from preventing the creation of the artifact in the first place, or make sure it was still in its resting place in Redridge to be found by Zuluhed. The awful stuff still happens down the line, but it’s not putting the player’s actions as connected to that as the current one looks.
It’s all still a game, and it needs to be enjoyable for the players to do, this looks like this is crossing a line for a lot of people where it’s making the point they seem to be going for too well and it’s turning people off. It can still be made in a way to express the unsavory nature of timeway protection without putting people into a situation like this one has.
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#thetrollsdidnothingwrong
I’m not insinuating you support sexual misogyny anymore than I know you wouldn’t claim I support genocide.
But this is still a problem.
They’re including a questline where we’re keeping a female character in such a situation right after they were sued for company-wide sexual harrassment. It’s just flat dumb and tasteless on their part.
And I still think the who moral darkside action to keep the timeline in check angle has run its course long before now.
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People emotionally relate to fictional worlds and characters. Maybe you don’t, but you’re also spending a significant part of your life discussing about a fictional world. People care about such things, and just because some do about this topic, while others don’t, doesn’t invalidate their concern over the matter.
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I worry about you seeming okay with mass murder.
But okay.
Don’t assume I’m okay with anything. I’m not the one justifying keeping the SA of a victim in game.
There’s a distinct difference betweeen killing random mobs for loot and Teldrassil, which sucked and no one liked doing or was comfortable with, and doing what Zerde and others are doing by trying to justify the quest with Alex staying in game. Especially after everything Blizzard has been accused of.
Your comment is ignorant and meaningless because you know exactly what blizz has been accused of and you don’t care that some idiots at blizzard thought this tasteless quest was a good idea
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How could ANY alternate timeline matter in regardless to The Legion? The legion was defeated in OUR time-line. There is only one legion as per CDev and they’re kaput. Finito. Gotovo.
None of this should or could possibly matter.
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No. I do not hold one form of assault as being worse than the other, that is probably where our thoughts divide. Mass murdering, mass genocide, is as bad if not worse than SA as far as I am concerned. And we fully accept the former but not the latter? That is quite crazy, is it not?
I mean, we still pay a lot of money to the people who let it happen, knowingly had it keep happening, and people who even participated in it happening. We do it under the guise of: “We support the developers!” when the developers are already getting their salaries, the only ones we support are the ones who did the bad things - they are the ones being majorly rewarded for the game’s successes. The developers are being paid their salaries and that is it.
So yeah, do play the moralistic highground tune with me, we are where we are at right now.
But if we are to take the moral duel, atleast I did not buy Shadowlands, nor subscribed during the entire expansion of Shadowlands.
/shuffles awkwardly
yeah, no one liked doing that…
Not really.
Children and teenagers are aware of death. They may participate in killing creatures if they work on farms, or grow up hunting or fishing, or even simply squashing bugs.
Killing can be done for justice, to remove a pestilence, to feed families, or simply sport. Kids hunt and fish.
SA has no such qualities. It is hopefully not something anyone engages in for any reason at any age. The frames of reference are all bad.
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It was her assassination, just outside the Halls of the Uncrowned, which prompted the urgency of looking into her warning, because only the most serious of issues would have warranted an assassination so close to the Uncrowned’s base of operations. Lord Jorach Ravenholdt specifically cites her assassination as the reason given to investigate SI:7.
Had she not been assassinated her warning might have been filed as ‘something to look at later’ rather than being investigated immediately, giving Detheroc more time to cause chaos while in the guise of Matthias Shaw.
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We go back in time and help the people who made a literal road out of skulls of the people they slaughtered en masse. We ensure Arthas succeeds in cleansing an entire city and goes onto bring apocolypse to lordaeron. Im sorry but the game isnt your safe space. Dont like it dont do the quest.
We even get to just stand there and watch him slap an unknowing civilian with his hammer.
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People really forgot the narrative of the Caverns of Time dungeons. We didn’t go back and ensure events happened by participating it them. We went back and stopped the infinites from altering the events. The Bronze Dragons were the ones whom then set the timeline right after the fact.
We had -0- impact or effect on the past, because our presence and actions were removed from it, after the threats of the infinites had been removed by our hands.
The only times our presence was essentially deleted was with Thrall’s escape and Medivh. With the others we were blended into the crowd. A nameless soldier that helped Arthas along with the several others that were there. A nameless soldier that participated in the Mt Hyjal war. No need to delete our presence because we were among the faceless.
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Yes, because we just… kept the Dragon Soul after taking it from the War of the Ancients, or something.
I might add, aiding in the defense of Hyjal isn’t exactly committing a crime. Helping Arthas, yes, but the timeline was reset afterwards I believe.
It’s been a while but didn’t we return it to its proper time? I may be wrong on that but I think we did.
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We did not. Blizzard(thankfully) mentioned that the Soul went back to its proper time because Noz was already losing his power.
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