I hope this is a joke or in an alternate universe, because this is unacceptable to dirt her ending like this!
And the fact that Chromie justifies the assassination doesn’t make any sense because Amber is actually here to WARN THE UNCROWNED about the treason.
Whether she lives or dies won’t change the fact that the uncrowned will be warry of a conspiracy.
Also, does it means that the bronze dragons are actually manipulating history for a “better outcome”?
It’s no different from what the Infinite Flight is trying to do if this is the case.
Honestly this is same level of us having to do dirty work as making sure that Arthas goes down his dark path, that Medivh opens the Dark Portal, and ensuring that Thrall escapes which ensures that Tabitha gets beheaded. What has to happen has to happen. Even if we’re the ones that have to plunge the knife into her.
I think what makes this one feel different is the personal nature of it. From what I remember, the other time travel story gimmicks involve you setting things up or killing infinite dragons so that things play out the way they always had if you hadn’t interfered in the first place.
With this quest, you’re backstabbing a character yourself, so I can see why this one puts people off in a way the other events don’t.
Oh yeah I understand it. In the others we aren’t personally doing all the horrible stuff that happened afterwards. It’s just that we definitely ensure the suffering takes place. Chromie doesn’t seem too enthused on sending us either. From what the context I gather, the person or being that originally assassinated her probably has disappeared or been killed off. Probably from Infinite interference. So with no alternative, we have to assume the role and make sure everything plays out as it is supposed to.
Unsavory but one of the inevitable actions that will happen when villains can time travel.
Exactly. This is just a alternate timeline quest to make sure things play out the way they were meant to in that timeline. But our version of Amber has been dead for a few years now from a lore standpoint
Did the not get enough ''eeeeh, can we not do this all the time" from Black Morass? The whole “you must make sure this terrible thing happens, because the alternative timeline is even worse (just take my word for it)” is intriguing once, tempting fate twice, and aggravating beyond that.
Instead of having the players kill Kearnen, why not frame the scenario as the players have to escort Kearnen as she flees from Infinite assassins, with the dungeon ending as she gets to Dalaran - she still meets her fate, it’s still melancholy and still a questionable idea for a story, but it’s not twist-the-knife cruel. Literally, for some classes.
There are so many options for time travel shenanigans, and they go this route again? Bad form.
Edit: and unless there’s some more framing that we’re not getting in this leak, killing Amber isn’t even required - she was bringing information about Shaw’s dreadlord impersonator to the Uncrowned, died enroute, and the Uncrowned investigated the mysterious death. If she survived, then all that would do is save the Uncrowned’s time in the investigation, not stop it.
This is one of those things they should probably tweak by faction. Hordies have no rapport with the lady and should feel no strong way about shanking her for the greater good, but Alliance PCs should at least have the option to peek through the disguise and explain their predicament before the shanking. Maybe have Chromie track this choice and give said PCs a special telling-off after the fact.
Alliance have some relation but the real odd part is gonna be the Rogues that were in the Legion Campaign. They were the ones that found the note and followed up on it. Now it’s revealed they will be the ones that kill her themselves. Now those are the ones that need a special interaction.
I think its cool. Kind of fun twist. Quests in the past have us taking peoples heads for 10 silver. This really isnt a big deal. Not every quest in DF should be save the heckin ducks.
Indeed and that’s why this story makes no sense in the first place: If she survives, the outcome will not change at all.
And the Rogues know it.
It will make things even better with a new ally in the rogue class hall, that’s all.
And once again, it’s another evidence that the writing team is not capable to write a correct story around the time travel.
WoD and the Mag’har storyline weren’t enough as a lesson it seems.
There’s a key difference between the two: The bronzes are forbidden to directly alter the time while the infinites are the ones trying to change it.
IF there’re no additionnals explanations like the real assassin being killed too soon, then it means that the bronze flight did exactly what they are forbidden to do (and they have done it once in the Mag’har storyline)
I only hope this quest is in an alternate universe so it will be more “acceptable”, but if it’s the main one then there’s no way that i will do this quest and yes, i am aware that it will probably blocks me to do the storyline.
This does seem like an odd choice, given her death doesn’t really affect the outcome of the Uncrowned’s investigation.
If her living would have a negative impact on the timeline, then the answer is just… remove her from it. Fake her death, remove her from the timeline, make her a Timewalker. She could work with the Bronze Flight from then onwards, having no further interaction with the rest of the world in the main timeline.
Yeah, that’s the point. For whatever reason, something happened back in time that’s about to undo that so you have to return to the moment of her intended death and do it yourself.
I guess that makes sense…sort of. It’s going to be weird for alliance players who had/have a fondness for the character. I always liked Amber since I met her in Cataclysm in Westfall.
Boom! Headshot! still makes me chuckle on the ocassions I do the Westfall zone