We want WOW classic xpacs to be permanent!

Wouldnt divide them much if you released only 4 servers for each expansion. A PVP one, a PVE one and a RP-PVP and RP-PVE one.

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Absolutely no one is gonna be like “My version of the game is gone, I guess I’m forced to play this one”

They’ll just quit and/or go to a private server. There is absolutely zero bright side to having less options.

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In a perfect world, this would be nice. But I’d start with one server and see what happens, either pve or pvp. It would be the safest bet for a successful server and then maybe expand from there if the demand is present.

The alternative is private servers, for free. WotLK is my favorite xpac and I almost wouldn’t mind paying a sub to stay on it as long as I want to. If I wanted to progress, I’d play retail :stuck_out_tongue:

I can see why this isn’t a thing yet; for people that don’t immediately want to progress to the next xpac, they’ll just stay on the previous one, and thus less people are playing the latest “classic” xpac and thus having less content creation/news/interest.

Perhaps once all the xpacs have gotten a classic run, they’ll launch them all at once, or possibly do another staged launch of vanilla and xpacs and keep them permanent the 2nd time around; whatever the situation calls for at that time.

Oh but they do.

By keeping certain types of expac only, they have the expectation that their preferred expac will be populated for them to play in.

This was evident by the release of SoD and its immediate impact on Wrath.

I didn’t like that SoD cut into Wrath’s population; but, that’s tough luck for me. It’s not up to me to decide what expacs should or shouldn’t be active, nor where ppl should play or shouldn’t play.

But those are exactly the games the company is playing with how they’ve been handling era servers moving on to Cata…

They’re just herding the WoW playerbases around like cattle for their own self-serving needs.

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You can, at any time, literally, just stop giving them money.

If you’re cattle in your own mind, then maybe do the most basic thing and just play something else. You don’t have to give Blizzard money for the rest of your life. Be a consumer, not cattle.

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Do you have any evidence to back up this claim of the rest of WoW being dead?
We see that claim all the time but it’s never backed up by evidence.

I had trouble finding a single person from Northshire, Goldshire, to Stormwind’s Trade District on Benediction (PvP Classic-era server). On other realms I at least see a single person leveling in Northshire, and multiple people in Goldshire, but nope, absolutely nobody until I got to the mailbox near the bank in SW, and that single person was AFK even. I’ve never seen a realm that inactive ever in WoW since playing since Vanilla, but to be fair maybe that’s just an isolated Classic or PvP realm thing.

Retail WoW definitely has people.

What are you, stupid or something?

Just a rhetorical question…

You’re just gaslighting as usual.

I’m not you.

This is not a rhetorical answer.

You can throw your buzzword around, but you have a history of just being unhappy while giving 15 bucks a month. Maybe try something else.

tbc tbc tbc!!
a complete sentence

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So many people call fresh vanilla and TBC servers. I’m sure 6 months after Cata people will be wanting fresh WOTLK servers. Almost like these are by far the most popular expansions in the game and people want to play them. We have classic Era which is great imo. Now just give us a fresh TBC era server and a WOTKK era for when cata comes out!

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as Alvon says:

I already quit Wrath because Cata is coming and no Wrath Era, so I’m not there to tank your dungeons.

This argument holds ZERO water.
First, it doesn’t take into account the number of players that might come back to play their favorite XPAC, who aren’t playing now (or are playing on a private server).
Second, it doesn’t take into account the fact that Blizz is intent on dividing the player base anyway (ERA, HC, SoD, and Wrath/Cata).

TLDR; “Dividing the player-base” is not a valid reason to not give the player-base what they want.

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How about…no?

Division of interest is a good thing, glad you agree that dividing the playerbase is a good thing. When the expansion is chosen not forced, the expansion one chooses will always have people who want to be there.

I’ve been goofing around on Wrath, but that will end when Cata comes out. They need to put up a TBC server, and then later a WotLK server.

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So far there are people playing Classic era, Classic sod and Classic Wrath and you wanat Classic TBC. Also people seem to want new servers which will no doubt be something people will want continually.

This means a lot of servers. Each needs hardware to run, network support and software maintenance. So the question is, who is going to pay for all of this?

One person presumably per-account can play one version of WoW at a time. Playing retail doesn’t load Classic servers, and playing WotLK doesn’t load retail or Classic servers. The $15/month most people are paying now can continue that, and even private servers are modular enough to load and unload zones that aren’t populated so there’s little additional load just having servers sitting idle or with few people. Basically, Blizzard can afford it if it’s what the people want, and having more choice = more interest = more people paying.

Even though I say that, I don’t plan on maintaining a long sub for classic versions of WoW even with a dedicated non-progressing WotLK server for my favorite xpac; retail is where the new progression is happening, and I’ve already seen the past. I can play Classic to WotLK comfortably any time I want regardless of what Blizzard does, but retail is unique and what’s happening today.

What’s going to happen with Classic characters anyway? Retail characters so far just continue on, and there’s at least 3 xpacs coming. Presumably if Retail continues with xpacs beyond that, is Classic just going to trail-along 7 xpacs behind?

The playerbase always has been divided and always will be. Attempting to corral everyone to a single version of the game that you prefer is selfish. People should be able to play the game the way they like it.

I hear this same argument with Warcraft 3 and how ‘sad’ people are that many players would rather downgrade to older patches than just ‘accept’ RF. But trying to force a version of the game on people will only drive them away.

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