We told you Blizzard was not going to cave in

You clearly don’t understand what a beta is used for…
Its testing and making sure the game is playable. Sure, you can give feedback on systems or certain aspects you don’t like or even like (yeah right, everyone who plays wow hates it apparently.)
Doesn’t mean they are obligated to agree with you and scrap the entire game…
That’s silly.

I mean i’m not going to argue with that.

That is why I find BFA to be 3rd worse for me. Wod and Cata get my first and second place.

Sometimes they are wrong I mean what can you do :joy:

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Can’t tell a Karen that!

This right here. I run with a great guild. My choice will be on what I feel fits my character the best. PuGs are bad Mmmmkay.

Yes, literally the entire game has balance issues that cause havoc on one or multiple of the 36 specs currently in game.

And I don’t trust them to somehow be able to balance what is now essentially 144 specs because of it.

Yup. I really do think the main problem with wow is just how good Group finder is, with tools like raider Io that replace guilds for content.

But what can ya do?

Yes let me choose to gimp myself and not help my friends to the best of my ability. You must be a great team player.

Agree that they just need to fix it and then add to fix problem.

Huge fan of you still being a real example of how bad our community is… while complaining about how bad our community is. Real commitment to trolling people you constantly profess to hate.

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They have literally changes everything they have ever been adamant about being aweome when the players told them it sucked.

This will change in a future patch after even the white knights start to realize it sucks.

Wow has been in slow decline for a long time, its killing itself.

I really don’t like any time someone tries to put any blame on the community… like… it’s our fault the game they designed doesn’t work as they intended. They sell us on something and then it doesn’t work and lots of people in the community get frustrated.

I feel like the people that make these posts just have no idea of what has happened in the past, especially for those of us who have had Alpha and Beta and reported issues and then they never get resolved.

Blizzard introduces new complexities all the time. The players don’t ask for it. The players want balance. So what does Blizzard do? Add more layers that add to frustration and confusion. New and veteran players alike think it’s bad… Corruptions were like this. It could have been a fun system, but what we got was convoluted and massively unbalanced.

When it came to convenants, we saw the writing on the wall. We have been here. We know what it means. We know it’s going to be a poop show from day one. We want to avoid that. We want more flexibility and locking us into any type of system will just make it worse.

The community didn’t create this problem.

I can’t wait till the scrap this garbage and all of us can come to the forums and make the ‘i told you so…’ posts.

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Run that by me again? I don’t like the community yes, but that does not mean I can’t talk and debate with you. What does one have to do with the other.

Second off, I’m not trolling. I stand behind what I say. It is how I feel, and I welcome people to disagree, and don’t get upset if they do.

I see you’re great at assuming without knowing the whole story. Waste of time. Thank you. Next.

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waste of time? you literally say

so you intentionally will pick something you know is worse gimping your group of friends you do content with but its okay cause they are a great guild and will carry you. you are the waste of time my friend because your okay with being mediocre in the things you do

The community is very much at fault for how we treat each other, and how the developers feel about us.

History shows this. Lets not pretend like this community has never been pretty darn toxic when it comes to gameplay or what the developers do.

I will just give one example. A long time ago, Hunters was going to get nerfed where players could dodge bullets, Thottbot made a Matrix banner mocking it. Players did a protest just to crash people servers.

Or better yet, weaponizing armory to the point of making the best pug groups you can, having players grind more systems, for a tool to replace any aspect of being social at all.

Want more? Blizzard tries something new, it does not work. The community is in a uproar. OMG anyone could see it would not work, or blizzard never listens. I rather try systems and see if it grows on us, but Blizzard open up a bag of worms. Now? No matter what they do people will be upset even more so. They change systems base off player feedback, now the community thinks they know what is best for the game and not the developers. They think because Blizzard change something they should always listen to you.

I mean to this day, people still saying “We are right because Blizzard is in the decline” and they BELIEVE it. That is the shocking thing. These people really think because Blizzard does not listen to them, Wow is dying. It is the most laughable thing ever.

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I’m sorry did you say something even the slightest bit worth reading? I didn’t think so.

lol keep deflecting off topic. im glad we can establish that you dont care that your a burden to your friends.

I mean you can turn that around.

That his guild don’t need to min/max in every way to get the content done, they are good enough to play how they want. Still do the content. While people who depend on min/max to do the content not as good as them.

Hey can work both ways.