We need RDF for the health of the community - long

[Dreamsphere-westfall]

@Corpseknife-mankrik

Right.

You also dont need to play Wrath and/or pay Blizz. You can just walk away.

You could do the same. This anti-RDF crusade is quite pointless, is it not?

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

@Dreamsphere-westfall

This anti-RDF crusade is quite pointless, is it not?

The whole discussion is moot. RDF isnt going to be in Wrath Classic.

But you want to have that discussion anyway. To pass the time I guess.

[Voltaire-yojamba]

@Corpseknife-mankrik

Im of the opinion an honest narrative would better serve to get it considered, assuming feedback is as good as some say it is.

That would start or somehow involve the acknowledgement that it doesn’t actually need to be there.

@Corpseknife-mankrik

All you get with RDF is more convenient access to dungeons. That’s all its designed to do. It doesn’t resolve community issues because the issue is the community.

There you go Corpse. All these forum posts later, you’ve got what you wanted and you even gave it to yourself. Pro-LFD camp appreciates your support.

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

Im Pro RDF man. Im just not an official party member. I dont need a majority to speak for me and theyre terrible at it anyway so I do my own thing regardless of what the majorities and authorities say.

And I do it way better than a bunch of wanna be victims crying foul.

[Voltaire-yojamba]

Great. Glad to have you on our side. You can rest now, soldier.

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

Im not anybody’s side. That’s the point.

[Trunchbull-earthfury]

Buncha sob stories.

See you at the stones.

[Dumbcake-westfall]

@Mileyy-benediction

I didn’t realize that I’m a bad player for not having Thori’dal despite doing every Sunwell lockout.

You’ll be happy to know that in Wrath there are no legendary drops. Almost everything is about a 33% drop.

[Mileyy-benediction]

I don’t care either way, but at least I don’t have to randomly queue for a TBC raid and hope I get Sunwell then hope Thori’dal drop and then hope I win the roll.

[Dumbcake-westfall]

You do know that with RDF you can queue for whatever dungeon you want?

[Mileyy-benediction]

I know, and then when all my lockouts are done, I can queue random dungeon and ignore the lockout and just pray to get the dungeon I need.

[Dumbcake-westfall]

I mean… yeah? If you really want to grind out heroics for about 5 hours or so you “could” get the same one twice in a day. Gear is pretty redundant in Wrath heroics though, I can’t imagine why you would need a specific piece of 187 gear that will soon be replaced.

Unless you’re the OCD kind of min/max player that is.

[Mileyy-benediction]

@Dumbcake-westfall

Unless you’re the OCD kind of min/max player that is.

I am. So don’t change the RDF release schedule for the sake of my mental health.

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

@Mileyy-benediction

It had RDF in ICC patch. Adding it to release is the change…

It had dual spec with ulduar. That’s in at release now. Just like an infinite amount of other examples.

Let that terrible argument go. It’s been disproven over and over.

[Mileyy-benediction]

Dual spec doesn’t interfere with gear progression.

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

Lol. The anti-lfd trolls stretch more than Gumby.

[Asche-ragnaros]

@Jetfuel-netherwind

• Paladin tank opens lfg menu. Grabs the first priest, shaman or druid healer he sees being careful to ignore any pally healer as he/she will need on paladin healing gear (tank may want a healing off spec kit)
• Now that the paladin tank has a healer, he can quickly scroll down the list and pick up 3 locks or boomkins bypassing all other dps classes (warriors that will need plate, 1 & 2 hand weapons. Rogues that will need dps necks/rings and 1 hand weapons. DKs that will need plate, 1 & 2 hand weapons)

You pretty much described what I’m going to do when playing solo, bu when I’m with my friends, it wont matter what class they want to bring, I’ll roll with them

A suggestion, get some friends and play your way, or at least get in a friendly guild

[Tesalyn-pagle]

@Jetfuel-netherwind

Non META DPS will be in serious trouble,

Same as it is now.
But it could be worse. Even decent enough specs may, technically, get declined for simply not being the most effective AOE cleave spec.
…or it really could be the case where it won’t matter one bit…Only time will tell.

RDF is not content. RDF is an accessibility too.

RDF gives no special treatment. RDF doesn’t care if you’re parsing 99 on trash in Naxx or if you’re a somewhat fresh 80. Heroics are totally fine for a group of fresh 80. RDF just focuses on a queue - first come first served.

@Jetfuel-netherwind

tanks are in such high demand and there is no other way DPS can form groups without them

RDF does not generate more tanks, HOWEVER. what RDF does do is allows players to focus on ingame activities rather than sit and monitor chat, spam LookingForGroup channel. They can just play the game.

@Jetfuel-netherwind

Remember how bad LFG chat was before blizzard nerfed boosting?

It is impossible to use 1/LFG channel without BulletinBoard addon. Anyone who states otherwise is a liar or doesn’t play Classic.

This is a good compromise thread.

RDF a fair compromise

As fellow forum lurkers may already be aware, I’m firmly of the no RDF persuasion. My main gripe with RDF is how it impacts server identity, accountability and interaction with other players that exist in your game world (Realm). To a lesser extent how it impacts interaction with the world with the teleport feature, but it’s not the hill I’d die on as flying mounts at 80 largely kill the whole travelling to a dungeon vibe and also levelling in vanilla for example is such a huge environment wit…

TLDR - same realm queue lock for 20-30 minutes and then open it up for cross realm.
So if your own realm can form the group - cool. If it can’t, it opens up the possibility to play.

[Xanthak-durotan (Xanthak)]

How you figure?

I’m not asking for hard numbers because that won’t prove anything. But think about it this way. You have those that are super adamant about LFD. Then you have those that don’t want it. Then you have those that don’t care.

Being that LFD is additional cost on Blizzards side, they’re going to evaluate on how many potential subs they will lose if they don’t LFD. Know what this means? In Blizzards eyes, the people that don’t care and the people that don’t want LFD are on the same side.

So really, it’s the people that don’t care + the people that don’t want LFD … vs the people are adamant LFD. And from my experience on the 2 mega servers I’m on, anecdotally, the overwhelming sentiment is that people just don’t care. This also includes realm discords, gdkp discords, etc.

[Thickdots-benediction]

Agree entirely