We need an Evil Faction

So we need an evil faction…i got it we merge horde and alliance into one faction since it feels like blizz wants both of them to be good guys. Make a new faction consisting of all the races we have and to add some spice do these things.

Humans: Priest and pally get to start with scarlet crusade armor and npcs at an instanced monastery

worgen: Druids that chose feral get a free glyph that makes them look like feral worgen npc

All shamans: Get a free glyph that makes their spells look more like the dark shaman stuff

Pallys also get to have a free glyph that turns their holy theme into a void theme (humans also get this choice but no scarlet)

Edit druids get a nightmare styled glyph

So you have nothing constructive to say and are making it creepy by sexualizing orcs…

Seems like the average wow player

That would be awesome. Good idea! :smiley: . Scarlet Paladins!

Im convinced there’s a large population of the WoW community that wants to play “the bad guys”.

We do have a evil faction, they are called mythic plus players :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

They would wear a crown if they where on their FF14 characters.

Name ONE time any character did something ‘evil for the sake that they enjoyed it’ when folks didn’t team up against them. I can think of a few times actually … and guess what, they are all times when the player had the choice and the game actually poked fun at the player in case one made those choices.

This whole “the Horde is evil because of my edgelord stance” is at best a really weird fantasy of yours. But hey, you did double down it here:

So please, oh please … do find me these droves upon droves of examples wherein both in-universe folks from the Horde (or the Alliance for that matter) ignored morally reprehensible acts like you insinuate the Horde has always been doing.

After all, the game has been around for almost 20 years. In-universe, we can also consider the entire Warcraft franchise. So you have plenty of material to pick and choose from. So please, show your work.

Who writes the lore? Blizzard and what was the lore at the end of WCIII? That neither faction was pure good or pure evil.

Over the years I have seen alliance players want to be the ones to start the war, I have seen them want to be able to vent their legitimate concerns with the Horde. I have also seen Alliance players moan about anything morally gray that the alliance did.

Again, Horde got smacked with the villain bat whenever the faction conflict took center stage because Blizzard possibly felt they had to write the lore to please those that wanted 100% Tolkien/classic fantasy in a world where the Alliance is indeed closer to Tolkien but the Horde is more like Shrek or possibly Caspian Narnia.

If I wanted to say that. I would have. Don’t put words in my mouth bro

You mean like the Iksar from Everquest?

I guess you could make the Naga into that, giving them a Capital City underwater, allow them to swim from continent to continent as fast as boats but restricting their land travel to running (no use of mounts) and using Racial Talents that give them a quicker land movement (like Worgen) and/or flight. That would negate any mount use problems.

Not sure how long interest would remain in such a faction though as it’d get pretty boring being on the outside all the time. Also, Blizzard seem to have stopped giving Horde and Alliance separate quest-lines, so the chances of them making another faction…

…I’l take that as a no then.

My apologies.

Okay, stuff all the arguments about TrUe ViLLAiNy and “Disneyfication” and “I’m self-conscious about playing video games and need them to be full of blood and death and genocide so everyone who sees me playing them knows I’m a growed up.” The reason this isn’t going to happen is exactly why they’re working toward removing all the legacy barriers between the Horde and Alliance now, and it ain’t “wokeism.”

It’s player numbers.

WoW at this stage in its life does not have the sheer population numbers to support two separate-but-equal factions, especially as more and more percentage of that population has shifted its focus into group endgame content. We saw this in action over the last few expansions before the end of Shadowlands opened up cross-faction PvE instances as the Alliance’s endgame player population continuously dwindled smaller and smaller to either faction transfers or, to the shareholders’ horror, leaving the game entirely. This left the Alliance a virtually dead faction for endgame content, and was on track to completely collapse before crossfaction resuscitated it.

Adding a completely new faction of any kind that can’t engage in content with the Horde and Alliance is going to run into that wall immediately because it won’t have any legacy players holding on from when the faction was alive and well to prop it up. The faction would collapse immediately from lack of player numbers, translating into massive wastes of developer time and company money.

And it’s a juvenile tantrum for the game to validate players’ insecurities with playing a “baby game” in the first place.

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I’d definitely welcome more RP elements like that. Don’t know how that would work in WoW though. They could bring back world pvp activities with something like that I think.

I’m still waiting for the BBQ of . . . er . . . at the new world tree. :skull_and_crossbones:

Semper Fi! :us: :ukraine:

All my comment was was me having a joke over DnD players that use “its what my character would do” just to be an absolute selfish dingus rather than actual roleplay.

I dream of the day we can just join an evil faction in WoW.

Alliance and Horde can join forces meanwhile evil players can join the Dark Horde or Scourge or something.

Alright. :+1:

My point below the question is more or less adding to that. I only asked because i was curious on what you might think of that.

Not me I’m a gangsta furry hunter of the alliance

What truly is YOUR definition of evil? Really, I guess in the end? In my real world edit: What I am being told by news? “pale skin supremacy, rural pales supremacy, colonialism,” … what is your ‘design’ of evil?

Technically a evil person would consider being good evil.

Because we all think we’re the hero.

Absolutely W take

It honestly gets annoying dealing with the weekly “bring back the faction war” posters like seriously its not as good as the rose tinted goggles these people are wearing make them think it is.

Its just outdated and most people are over it thats why it was resolved in bfa.

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The problem is that whenever Blizzard makes the Horde edgy (as they’ve always been) a vocal minority on the Alliance side start crying and freaking out. Like what we have happening here in these comments. They want to RP as lords and ladies and be thought of as the bestest heroes in the universe. An evil faction would challenge this fantasy.

So even if we could have an ‘evil’ faction like we used to in WC/WCII and especially in WCIII with the Scourge, the same Alliance minority would screech and cry until they too were neutered and forced into cute cooperative stories running errands for that ungrateful hag with fat ankles: Tyrande.

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