Very unlikely we’ll see any major sweeping changes with AWC.
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Shouldn’t have started AWC so soon. We’re going into an arena world championship with pvp being in a beta test state.
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DH’s aren’t bad tho…unless blizz takes their legendary and cov ability…then they’d actually be bad. If RBG’s is your thing they are also the best tank rn. Right now they just aren’t bfa level easy to pve someone to death and require using their mobility to live aka kite…I’ll agree with unholy dk’s, mw, rdru tho…as well as demo lock/bm hunters (I’m okay with players having to play their class and not afk while their pets do 70%+ of their dmg even in a 10min game)
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They’re not bad dmg wise, survability wise they’re awful.
They released the game over Christmas; Do you expect Blizzard to work over the holidays? Hopefully we can get better balancing going forward after the AWC as well.
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Except the vast majority of classes are viable in its current state. AWC will be fun to watch because we’ll see all sorts of comps.
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No they really aren’t…they just have to use mobility to live…as well as have the legendary for comps where they are the kill target…having 2 darkness’s, blur, death from above every 1min(taken against melee cleaves) not to mention the ability to kite every class in the game more or less and a half decent conduit paired with the tattoo dmg reduction can have them sitting at 18% magic damage reduction at all times…they really aren’t you just don’t get passive dmg mitigation while doing absurd cleave dmg like bfa…oh did I mention you can metamorphosis immune gpie/stormbolt/kidneyshot/legsweep etc etc?
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yeah man rogues are too op rn they need to nerf rogue again dude 
Buff sub
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It was a ret that said that. Please don’t respond and feed the troll.
Many classes being broken therefore viable =/= balance.
We will also see all sorts of random one shots in a global where u don’t even understand what happened or how it happened, which is not fun for the viewers nor the competitors.
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survival hunters, and assasination rogues arent
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Actually Ret and MM also got tuned a month ago.
Ringing Clarity nerf wasnt good enough though
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You probably wont see many cheese one shots in the AWC, that’s how it works when players know when and what buttons to press
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Yea it’s not like it’s happened to so many top tier players during streams over and over again lmao. We prolly won’t see as many but I can assure you there will be random one shots out of nowhere 100%
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If you honestly thought they would do class tuning the week of the tournament you jebaited yourself.
Even awc competitors thought so.
We should’ve gotten these changes weeks ago though, now it’s obviously not a good time due to awc, but if they happened 2 weeks ago then they would’ve given awc competitors time to adapt and we wouldn’t have to play through this clown fiesta for almost a month more than we should have.
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DH is still busted, just requires more skill and that’s why most dropped it. 
Well, maybe it’s also a bit undertuned, but let’s be compeletly honest here: Does anyone dislike that?
Wrong! Balance is a comparison word, so if everything is broken, then everything is equally strong. And when everything is equally strong, then nothing is “broken”, “op”, or what ever word you use to say that something is too strong from your point of view. That is just logical thinking man!
But somehow for most it’s impossible to get an objective point of view! And that is why the devs are not listening here, but checking ladder instead, watching arena streams, ask high rated arena players how they are feeling about it and let some of them test the PvP balance (isn’t Sodah working for them but also play arena from time to time with his old play mates? I think I have seen him playing with venruki not too long ago.).
But if everything needs minutes to die it is? We just got out of the slowest gameplay we ever had (bfa) and got back to a fast pace most enjoyed in the past and also now. Fast pace is the reason why we see so much more different specs and comps at the top, not just always RMX, LockXX, etc.
Only noobs that are waiting for the next arena game before they are popping cooldowns die within seconds. The fast pace is long enough implemented to know what can and will happen if a boomy still has his convoke, a mage still his combustion, a ret still his wings, a ww still his whole burst, an ele still his insane burst, same for enhancer and so on! Use your cooldowns to counter theirs and you will at the very least survive the first setup. Means that every game is at least 90 seconds.
So I am completely serious here: If you die in seconds, it’s mostly because you and/or your team did something terrible wrong OR are undergeared like crazy. Where we come to the only major point that is bad so far in SL: The insane advantage of PvErs versus PvPers, as PvErs get gear a lot faster. But in NA they enable at least 197 honor gear today (with renown 22). I hope they learn it for the next season and enable it much faster, as PvErs have proven how fast they gear up.
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we’re 2 weeks into January now, and there have been patches. just no pvp patches. this dereliction has nothing to do with the holidays.
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Lies, Marksman ate a 20% damage nerf too.
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