Why does this feel so loaded with current political motivation?
What would be a fair price to pay your bank to regain access too all of the features (checks, atm useage, direct deposit, mobile deposit, etc) your bank offers you on an account that had those features for years???
As crooked as banks are - they don’t even change this kind of stuff on customers. They grandfather you into the account.
This feels just like when politicians are open about how corrupt they are - and yet they still have a base that supports them, even when they get cheated like the rest of the population.
Ok you may be right, he just says it in such a confusing way I misunderstood it:
"This equipment slot is account wide, when you put the effect there, it applies to any mount thereafter.
I think one the main problems is the level of misunderstanding on the forums, lets get the fact’s straight here: mount equipment slots are unlocked at lvl 100, but the slot not the equipment in it is account wide and is usable from lvl 20"
Since, you’re here. Why not make the mount equipment when enabled on a mount, account wide? You’ll see less complaining about it on the forums for one…secondly, that would make any mount function exactly like the waterstrider does right now.
I am not going to grind out rep on 5 alts. back in LK once you hit exalted with a rep all the shoulder enchants were BOA and it didn’t break the game.
Why is this a big deal now? So many players have left because of crap like this. Nobody want to grind rep on a dozen alts JUST to get something they can already buy on their main.
Sadly, the answer to that seems to be that they think it’ll be too powerful for folks to have multiple effects active on different mounts at the same time. At least, that was the answer given for why they don’t want to leave the Strider as is and make it exempt from benefiting from mount equipment.
They want us to have to choose between water walking and other beneficial mount effects. If we keep water walking on the strider, we’d be able to use an item on the other mounts and have two benefits active at the same time. I don’t see why this is a problem, but apparently it is to The Powers That Be.
You get one free, but the items are consumed on use and are used at the character level, so if you have more than one character, you have to buy more from the vendor and send them to your alts. Using the water walking mount equipment item means you can’t benefit from any other mount equipment items.
No, not multiple. Just accout wide. I.e you get your water boots, you put it on your favourite mount, then all you chars have that same mount with that equipment slot filled in (as in you can’t put another one on top of it).
The odd thing is that all of these items, as several have mentioned, are in the game already but in different forms.
Water Walking Elixir
Coarse Leather Barding
Goblin Glider
Among other things that can be used while on mounts. This seems to me more and more like they are trying to narrow down what you use and when. Since these can stack, I personally don’t use them since I am in old content, this is not something they want moving forward.
A better idea again is to leave the strider the same as the golem. There is no reason to remove it’s current buff at all. Increase the time that the elixir of water walking is present, let’s say 2 hours, maybe longer if you are an alchemist. Even maybe increase DK and Shaman to 1 hour.
The mount equipment system is more of a way to remove the stacking effect of other items in order to have more control. This is nothing about player choice at all, since we already have ways to do the exact same thing already.
I may have repeated myself, but the point remains the same
Yes, but if every mount has the slot, then you could put water walking on one mount and anti daze on another and one character, or all characters if account wide, would have access to both abilities.
And when we use it - just to get what we already have back - we sacrifice the ability to use that slot for any other item. That’s the cost - we give up the slot just to get back what we have.
honestly this is my perspective of this and how i feel this should go, do i think that having a mount equipment for water walking needs to be a thing, yes, its either going to be a free thing for people who have the mount and continue to be free, you cant add a gold sink to something already attained. it was a long task to do when it was current and some of us bust our behinds for it.
while that is said i think that the water strider should retain its water walking , no i dont think it should have a mount equipment slot im not talking about giving something 2 abilities because thats broken.
this is also going to go abit against what i said in the first part of my post but if the strider keeps its water walking i think that at that point sure give us 1 free mount equip to let us do it on other mounts but i also feel like if you add currency for it, it should be a fish aka MoP rare fish or a stack of a certain fish since these are fishing vendors, since in MoP rep was earned by turning in rare fish from certain zones and in WoD we got currency to give nat pagle let those be the currencies because honestly a gold sink for something spent so much time to earn is offensive to those that did the grind for them
… something happened along the way that caused the player to leave. Homogenization of classes, removal of QoL improvements, removal of skills and abilities, removal of benefits from heirlooms, removal of portals, removal of striders, removal of future …
Thanks Garion. Mostly your words. An epitaph , wearable by both the player and the game. Its not a Strider, its another wisp of hay, another nail.
It seems the recent trend is for the WoW team to say “everyone uses X, so clearly the solution is to nerf X into the ground so people have choice.” What would be preferable would be for the WoW team to come up with cool options, or maybe in this case get rid of the annoyances that lead people to do the grind to get the water strider. For instance, if I wasn’t constantly having to go across water at all levels for which flying isn’t available, it wouldn’t be an issue. Or maybe there could be other options for swimming to be less horrible. Just a thought.
The “solution” here is just to piss people off and add more tedium to the game. I’ll never be thankful for Blizzard giving me more choice here. I went back to the one expansion I did not play to grind the rep for something I use all the time. Sure, you have the right to take it away, just like you have the right to turn off all your servers. Is that a good business decision for you though?
I’m not going to say I will quit because of this. But I will say there are reasons accumulating that will eventually add up to me canceling my sub and never playing again. With all the problems in the game I don’t understand a decision to needlessly piss people off. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Adding mount abilities is cool. Taking away something that we already earned (a water walking mount we can use on all alts for free without doing extra work beyond the grind we already did to get the mount) is inherently not cool. At some point I’m scratching my head wondering if you guys feel like you have too many subscribers. This expansion has been brutal: GCD changes, azerite armor, ability pruning and stuff like this. In recent times, each time the WoW team has insisted that it knows better than the community, the WoW team has been wrong.
As some others have said, thanks for engaging with the community. I just don’t agree with the line of thinking.
I earnt the Angler’s reputation by doing the fishing that was required, so that I could buy the mount on one character.
Instead of receiving a lifetime account-bound water walking mount, you have changed the terms of the deal. A fair price would be NOTHING. This should be FREE. I spent my time and my gameplay to perform the task and now you are changing the reward.
The point of ACCOUNT-BOUND REWARDS is that they are rewards and that the rewards do not change.
Will you change the Realm-first Level 70 awards now and just hand them out to anyone with a Level 70? Will you change the Mythic Raid achievements now and just give them to anyone that kills Mythic Jaina next expansion?
What part of you doesn’t understand that when someone earns a reward, that they could be annoyed when it is taken away. These types of changes are driving people from the game, and if that is what you want, well done.
If you are interested in changing the system then how about ADDING things to the game, and STOP TAKING THINGS AWAY.
I use the Water Strider every day whilst levelling. I use the Sky-Golem every day whilst levelling.
What you should of done with this change is to keep the Sky-Golem as is. Make an equipment item have it’s ability. Players would then buy that item so that they could herb on a donkey or whatever they wanted to.
What you should of done with this change is to keep the Water Strider as is. Make an equipment item have it’s ability. Players would then buy that item so that they could herb on a Dreadwake or whatever they wanted to.
You know the Dreadwake? The ship that flies BUT NOT IN BFA and doesn’t float. Thanks.
The equipment is not permanent. It is a consumable. If you want to use the anti-daze equipment, you cannot use the water walking equipment. If you want to switch to different equipment, you lose the slotted item and have to repurchase it if you ever want to switch back. It is almost guaranteed that Blizzard will remove the current barding/stirrups/etc. so players won’t have the option to equip water walking and still use the other items.
This change takes away something players already had and forces them to repurchase it if they want that ability. That is a terrible precedent to set.
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