Water Strider Discussion

[Truthspeaker-alleria (Truthspeaker)]

i was about to start farming this thing again. I guess I should wait

Might as well get it now for the free item and discount on future purchases. At least that’s what I’d do if I didn’t already have it.

Edited to add that I’ve been working on fishing up lunkers to get the crimson one to have an option other than just the blue, but I guess I can put that goal on hold indefinitely. I certainly don’t like the look of the bug so that just dropped way down my list of priorities, so, err, thanks Blizzard for giving me an excuse to have one less thing in game to work on, I guess?

[anon38033770]

Cant even farm a few frikking nodes without every stinking creature in the tri zone area having to fight to the death for it.

To be fair it’s been that way since Vanilla.

maybe…but I farm all day long in MoP and never ever had this kind of problem

[Midgette-stormrage (Midgette)]

there will be one available via Anglers reputation that will be bind-on-account

What about the water strider that was through Nat Pagle in WoD vs. Angler’s rep? Is it going to be a similar concept or only Angler’s rep?

[Tempestwinds-hyjal (Tempestwinds)]

there will be one available via Anglers reputation that will be bind-on-account

What about the water strider that was through Nat Pagle in WoD vs. Angler’s rep? Is it going to be a similar concept or only Angler’s rep?

That’s probably what they mean. Yet another example of something you had to grind to earn and now is being taken away (or at least the functional value of it) so you can re-earn it. That’s how Ion rolls.

[Nobully-blackrock (Nobully)]

Yes, there are ones for Legion and ones for BFA. There’s also a mount available at level 1. At level 60 you can fly everywhere up to WoD where they become less useful. Sky Golem works at levels 80+.

You respond with yes, when the answer is actually no.
You can not use barding or stirrups at level 20.
…which is why players without strider access, are going to be the ones who benefit the most from the proposed change.

This isn’t accurate. Currently in game (Pre 8.2) you can use a Water Walking potion with ANY mount. You can also use a Barding or Stirrup with the Water Strider or use a Barding with the Sky Golem.

This isn’t accurate.
You can not use barding or stirrups at level 20.

If you have the strider, you’ve already purchased account level Water Walking once, albeit with a higher character level limit.

incorrect.
The mount equipment system doesn’t unlock until you have a level 100 character on the account.
Striders are obtainable before level 100.
Returning players from MoP, have their water walking removed, and can no longer access it.

Water Walking on the strider is a permanent effect, available to all your characters level 90+, provided you grind the reputation and pay for the mount.

strider is available to use at level 20… what’s the level 90 reference?

IIRC, there was a suggestion that the discount rate for angler rep people buying boots was likely going to be around 1000g.

gonna need a source on that.
the 1k price tag which was referenced, was an estimate on the crafted items, not the vendor items.

[Lepermessiah-thunderlord (Lepermessiah)]

Been giving this some thought. If they’re going to do a system like this, mounts need to have enough slots for all the equipment. As of right now, since I leveled all the professions for their perks such as barding, stirrups, hoofplates, etc and I can have all of those active at once and still use my waterstrider.

[Hardwire-velen (Hardwire)]

As of right now, since I leveled all the professions for their perks such as barding, stirrups, hoofplates, etc and I can have all of those active at once and still use my waterstrider.

But only so long as barding, hoofplates, and stirrups are still in the game.

Most likely, in the usual “Blizz giveth, and Blizz taketh away (just that tiny bit more)” manner, we won’t see barding, hoofplates, or stirrups next expansion. We may even see the existing barding, hoofplates, and stirrups turned into grey items when 9.0 hits.

[Jops-zuljin]

IIRC, there was a suggestion that the discount rate for angler rep people buying boots was likely going to be around 1000g.

gonna need a source on that.
the 1k price tag which was referenced, was an estimate on the crafted items, not the vendor items.

Would be nice if you’re right, but not getting my hopes up. We’ll find out soon enough one way or another.

[Fenshire-feathermoon (Fenshire)]

I’m 10000000000% positive that if this truly becomes detrimental, then they’ll make a change.

yeah…and Im sure youre wrong. They’ll do whats in THEIR best interest, like they always do.
If it drags out game time it aint getting changed back.

Except that it’s already been changed, so… you’re wrong?

[Rentrenus-stormrage]

Some ideas just for fun:
Duck (always see requests for this), Swan, Manta Ray (more gliding than walking), Water Spider, Platypus (just because I think it’s cute), some made up animals also would work just fine

I’ve been brainstorming this as well.

I think frost and snow type elementals would work nice - they freeze the water as they cross it.

Have more boat mounds, but make them able to actually float in the water.

There are also do exist cars and buses that can go through the water, so they could have made mounts that transform a bit when they reach the water.

A hover board that also works as a surf board would be cool.

Basically, of all the possible solutions, they choose the one that

a) Upsets people

b) Is Unnecessary

c) Is lazy

Worst of all, I strongly expect this is a start of a system where current aspects we associated with certain mounts: repair, transmog, and even flight, will all eventually turn into an item instead. I expect that to happen next expac.

[Hardwire-velen (Hardwire)]

Worst of all, I strongly expect this is a start of a system where current aspects we associated with certain mounts: repair, transmog, and even flight, will all eventually turn into an item instead. I expect that to happen next expac.

Yes, it seems the real lesson they learned from “no flight going forward” and “we want to lock the water striders to work only in their native content” is that if they remove things in stages, they can convince a portion of their player base to defend whatever nerf they feel like implementing.

[Revannia-draenor (Revannia)]

duh I completely forgot about boats hahaha. I guess after not getting any for any of the Kul Tiran factions I kinda forgot about them as an option I thought about freezing water but I think that might encroach too much on dks.

Jet skis might work too.

I’m sure our brilliant gnomes could come up with a bunch of stuff. And then goblins can have an exploding version ahem jk

[Skaggz-stormrage (Skaggz)]

Well I guess that dreadwake mount will now finally be able to water walk now for those that bought it lmao.

[Diamante-moon-guard]

Oh wow instead of a free water mount that I worked to grind

I don’t think you know what Free means…

[Jops-zuljin]

Well I guess that dreadwake mount will now finally be able to water walk now for those that bought it lmao.

Gotta admit, it was kinda fun to zip through the water with my upgraded Underlight Angler on the boat. Looked righteous! =)

Shame water-walking won’t have the same visual effect.

[Jops-zuljin]

I hope your Path of Frost isn’t removed.

They were going to remove warlocks ‘water breathing’ ability in 8.0, but someone managed to change their mind.

Some days it really feels like all our abilities are characters in a G.R.R.Martin novel.

[Thòrhammer-proudmoore (Thòrhammer)]

Blizzard - could you kindly just leave the strider ability active and don’t let the strider benefit from the equipment?

[Truthspeaker-alleria (Truthspeaker)]

Blizzard - could you kindly just leave the strider ability active and don’t let the strider benefit from the equipment?

[Devil’s advocate] But then people who want to min/max their mount abilities will still feel forced to use their striders for the water walking so they can use another ability on their other mounts. [/Devil’s Advocate]

(I don’t agree. I’m a big proponent of making a decision and accepting the consequences of that decision. But that’s what some folks have said to others who’ve proposed that solution. Figured I’d jump the gun and say it first. )

[Thaallia-stormrage]

Nothing is being taken away. The strider will literally function exactly the same, but will be able to do other things if you want it to.

I’m tired of people with your attitude.

[Truthspeaker-alleria (Truthspeaker)]

Nothing is being taken away. The strider will literally function exactly the same,

It will not literally function the same since right now part of the functionality is that it can be used on any character 20 or higher without any additional steps or expense. What’s being taken away is that part of its functionality.