Water Strider Discussion

[Kwaii-tichondrius (Kwaii)]

For the same reason that water-walking potions exist?

To give professions a source of income?

1 permanent effect and getting to buy consumables for the others would be a great system.

[Landrada-korgath (Landrada)]

It serves no purpose whatsoever. It only exists to make the game more unpleasant to play.

Absolutely agreed. Players are losing more with this change. Remove it completely please.

[Savana-scarlet-crusade (Savana)]

And the ww potions will probably disappear also. Then you’re asking to have multiple features on your mounts… they are limiting them to ONE>

[Turandotte-icecrown (Turandotte)]

(1) It gives professions a source of income after everyone has picked their permanent equip.

They don’t care if the professions make gold for the players or not. That has been repeatedly stated in the past.

[Ruddypiper-sargeras (Ruddypiper)]

I was under the impression that given water-walking potions exist alongside the permanent effect we’d see the new items exist alongside the current ones.

Apples to potatoes. Water Walking on the strider is a permanent effect, available to all your characters level 90+, provided you grind the reputation and pay for the mount.

Potions are temporary in duration and must be purchased for each and every character.

It’s a clear trade off of effect: grind and pay once per account(s) or pay continually per character.

And skips over being able to stack effects currently on Live.

Removing Water Walking from the strider (account level access) to replace it with a character level consumable in a system that only allows one consumable per character is a pretty clear indication that having multiple effects at the same time isn’t going to be part of the system. Same thing for the Sky Golem not having equipment slots for daze or parachutes.

Otherwise there’s no point in creating a restrictive system when they could simply ditch the daze mechanic completely, add water walking-swift swim-water breathing to any of the existing mounts that should be dual purpose anyway (hippos, turtles, the Flying/Sinking boat, etc). And/Or remove the zone/level restrictions from the Barding and Stirrup.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

Did they say that they’re removing the current barding/stirrups? I was under the impression that given water-walking potions exist alongside the permanent effect we’d see the new items exist alongside the current ones.

If they didn’t everyone would use water shoes and buy bardings and gliders which would make the mount equipment obsolete the second it goes live.

[Kwaii-tichondrius (Kwaii)]

Apples to potatoes. Water Walking on the strider is a permanent effect, available to all your characters level 90+, provided you grind the reputation and pay for the mount.

So given we’re currently in a world where you have one permanent, and however many temporary effects, it doesn’t seem surprising to me to expect that to remain, just with a choice over which permanent effect you get.

[Zootzoot-kaelthas (Zootzoot)]

which would make the mount equipment obsolete the second it goes live.

Isn’t it already going to be made obsolete once Pathfinder Part 2 is done soon after the Equipment is released since it’s all coming in the same patch?

[Kwaii-tichondrius (Kwaii)]

You mean exactly like how people just use a water strider and can use bardings now?

If they remove the consumables I think the change will be pretty bad, but assuming they remain (like ww pots), the system in 8.2 will just be what we have now with more choice.

[Savana-scarlet-crusade (Savana)]

So given we’re currently in a world where you have one permanent, and however many temporary effects, it doesn’t seem surprising to me to expect that to remain, just with a choice over which permanent effect you get.

No, they want you to SWAP choices. That means you can pay to change, then pay again to change, rinse/repeat. You won’t be able to stack. That’s not their intention. Otherwise they would just make WW available to all mounts and let you use the optional items.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

Until 9.0 when there is no flying. And that is what Blizzard is counting on. Because just like every expac feature it is disabled the next expac, and then will will have nothing. Which is what blizzard wants.

[Ruddypiper-sargeras (Ruddypiper)]

Isn’t it already going to be made obsolete once Pathfinder Part 2 is done soon after the Equipment is released since it’s all coming in the same patch?

Patch 8.3, patch 9.0 to 9.2.x, everyone who doesn’t grind Pathfinder, everyone who lacks the rep to purchase water walking from the Anglers.

Also completely misses the point. Why waste development time inputting a new more restrictive system at a time when said restrictions are moot, while also leaving in options that make said restrictions irrelevant? Because they plan to use the new more restriction system to gate travel in other ways later on.

[Jops-zuljin]

A small clarification to our plans with Mount Equipment–

Hitting level 100 on one character will unlock this system. Once unlocked, the system will be available to all characters, and the equipment pieces themselves will require level 20. If your goal is to have waterwalking while leveling, you can just enable the waterwalking Mount Equipment (there will be one available via Anglers reputation that will be bind-on-account), and it’ll work exactly as before, with the benefit of making all of that character’s mounts walk on water.

Kaivax-

Can you clarify one point about the Water Strider transition in 8.2 ?

Do each of our alts get mailed their own [Inflatable Mount Shoes] when 8.2 goes live? (assuming we have a water strider already)

Or is it “one per account, whoever logs in first gets it”?

[Pikkarg-bleeding-hollow (Pikkarg)]

No better time than now to make mechanical wings for ground mounts to fly.

[Rentrenus-stormrage]

3 - Just add more water walking mounts to the game

Although this alternative probably won’ happen, it deserves further attention.

Is Blizzard stating they want NO water walking mounts in the game?

No, the issue is apparently the water strider is too common.

For good reason - it’s the ONLY mount that can naturally walk on the water!

So, when people have more variety of mounts that can walk on water, don’t you think that alone will create diversity? Even if you leave the water strider as is?

The current stance is more like revenge to make the water strider never be used again, and worse, continue to destroy the sense of immersion in the game.

[Atrus-moon-guard]

Uh, if nobody else mentioned it, yes, sub 20s have riding. There’s an ‘heirloom’ mount they added specifically to give sub-20s riding. Chauffered chopper. Which has built in no-daze; I wonder if that’ll get removed.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

Uh, if nobody else mentioned it, yes, sub 20s have riding. There’s an ‘heirloom’ mount they added specifically to give sub-20s riding. Chauffered chopper. Which has built in no-daze; I wonder if that’ll get removed.

If they don’t then it will be the go to mount to not be dazed and dismounted, just like the water strider is the go to mount for water walking.

[Atrus-moon-guard]

Not really likely. While it IS an auto no-daze, it’s also stuck permanently at 60% speed and can’t fly. I’m not sure people will accept going significantly slower as the price to pay for free no-daze.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

Forgot about the slow speed, you are prob right then.

[Kanzie-nagrand (Kanzie)]

Free for one toon, not free for my other 99.