Water Strider Discussion

[Blays-bloodhoof]

Unfortunately, things change in the game over time. and Just because it was created 6 years ago doesn’t make it a good idea

So when they prune one of your 4 available specs, we can haul this line out.

[Pattyz-area-52]

I made this toon back in like 07’ - my specs have changed countless times, bud.

[Kiwì-dentarg (Kiwì)]

Sorry but thats not okay.

Why? How does what I do playing this game have any impact on what you do playing this game?

Please give me a real life example of how the strider has impacted your gaming experience.

Precedent only needs to be set once.

Exactly! People need to come to realize this or they will at some point be crying in their (patch 8.w.t.f.0 )

[Brahmina-khadgar (Brahmina)]

That’s 15 unique mounts in your list, compared to 700+ mounts overall. Sorry but thats not okay.

Why is it not “okay”? Does not every player have a chance to acquire these special mounts? Why do all the mounts have to have the same abilities? Should non-flying mounts all be able to fly like flying ones? What is the reasoning behind your assertion?

[Pattyz-area-52]

Why? How does what I do playing this game have any impact on what you do playing this game?

Please give me a real life example of how the strider has impacted your gaming experience.

If I want a mount that walks on water I have 2 mount options out of 700+. Thats how.

[Parìyah-emerald-dream]

If I want a mount that walks on water I have 2 mount options out of 700+. Thats how.

How does someone having those impact your gaming experience though? You have the ability to get those mounts just like we all did.

[Moused-cairne (Moused)]

Couldn’t had said it better Shamageddon…its all BS what they are doing to us owners of these striders…

[Dhanara-moon-guard (Dhanara)]

I repeat, this change was never about giving players more options. It actually limits them.

Quoted for truth!

[Kiwì-dentarg (Kiwì)]

If I want a mount that walks on water I have 2 mount options out of 700+. Thats how.

Based on the number of mounts you have collected, mounts are not important to you. This is fine. You like to do other things in this game.

However, over the years Blizzard created content for people who like to collect unique items like mounts. Most often that content was for people to grind something in order to obtain that unique mount. Be it grind the items needed to build the Golem, gold for the AH mount, complete super secret tasks for the hivemind, or rep for the water-walking strider.

People did these things believing that Blizzard was operating in good faith.

You cannot blame people for being angry that Blizzard is breaking that good faith.

You may not understand it because these are things you do not value when playing the game, however, there are people within the community that do value them. They worked hard at obtaining these special items and they should not have to lose them because a new system is being implemented.

I will stop responding to your posts now because it is clear that you do not want to understand the other side of this issue.

Have a very nice evening.

[Jops-zuljin]

Having 1 mount out of 700+ be able to walk on water is OP. This is a very clear discrepancy.

No, there are two. There could be more, but Blizzard decided they don’t like them.

And what do you mean it’s “OP” … it is what it is. A mode of transportation, like swimming or flying or running on the ground. The QUANTITY of mounts capable of doing that is irrelevant. The availability of it is irrelevant because, as many things in the game are, you can have it if you make the effort to earn it, therefore it’s ‘fair’.

If you have an angler’s raft, you’re better off because, honestly, you can use it to water walk as fast, if not faster, than the water strider… AND use it in places that don’t allow mounting.

The problem is, it requires rep or fishing skill to -USE- and isn’t available to alts. (last I checked).

Your point makes no sense to me, whatever it is… And I don’t need to get all ad hominem on your face to get that point across.

[Jops-zuljin]

Being someone who falls off of mountains a lot, I have my glider on my action bar! Of course there are the times I forget they are there… and forget that my mage and priest have slow fall

I have a special thumb button on my mouse for “AUGH I’M FALLING!”.
On priest: macro to SELF levitate (incase I have someone else targeted)
On Mage: macro to self feather-fall
On Druid: macro to switch to boomkin, press again for ‘flap’
On Z-troll: dino-glider
On engineers: macro to use cape glider tinker
On DH: macro to dismount & glide
On everything else: Use a glider from my bags

And I end up dying on the PTR to falling death often, because I always forget to set that up. =/

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

There are only 12 classes, meanwhile you have 700+ mounts that just walk/fly, and only one that walks on water. If you have any knowledge of statistics you would see the issue here.

Easy enough…make the BFA BOAT that flies…FLOAT.
Was always an option for them to make new WWing mounts.
They chose option B, the lame option, instead.

[Dhanara-moon-guard (Dhanara)]

Easy enough…make the BFA BOAT that flies…FLOAT.
Was always an option for them to make new WWing mounts.
They chose option B, the lame option, instead.

If they gave me about 10 minutes, I could come up with another few dozen mounts that would make great water walking mounts. Lore-appropriate ones, too.

[Jops-zuljin]

The larger issue (for me) is “Character Progression”.

If an expansion doesn’t give us something useful that lasts, that carries forward, then what’s the point? Just skip that expansion and come back for the next?

Cata introduced passenger mounts.

MoP introduced the water walking, herbing and transmog mounts

WoD made swimming mounts available and a 2nd hearthstone

Legion gave us a sweet powerful fishing pole, several swimming mounts and a 3rd hearthstone

bfa … made an auctioneer mount available, for ~40 WoWTokens worth of gold.

Not really “progression” considering how few will get one. The rest of BFA’s stuff is transient/temporary/limited, with no promise of future utility.

So, basically, we’re at the point of stagnation. No forward progression anymore. Scaling keeps us in place on the treadmill, lack of innovation gives us no new quality of life improvements to pursue. The story isn’t compelling anymore.

All that keeps me here is the graphics are pretty and the fact I’ve put so much time into this game already that it’s hard to let go.

But I have no reason to believe that there’s any interesting ‘potential’ left to discover in this game, because Blizzard seems completely uninterested in developing any.

[Pattyz-area-52]

How does someone having those impact your gaming experience though? You have the ability to get those mounts just like we all did.

Because its less options and less variety etc. I don’t want to be forced to grind for a water strider if I want a mount that walks on water. Just like players don’t want to be forced to raid if they want good gear- now there are mythic dungeons, random gear rewards for PVP etc.

[Parìyah-emerald-dream]

I don’t want to be forced to grind for a water strider if I want a mount that walks on water

“I don’t want to be forced to grind for the mount that was made to walk on water just so I can walk on water. I want you to make it so I can walk on water with some other mount that was not made for water walking.”

[Kilhub-khazgoroth (Kilhub)]

Do they think we’re so addicted that we won’t leave the game when they punish us and take things away, only to have us repurchase what we already had?

The answer to this is “yes”. They believe that people are so addicted that they can literally serve crap on a plate and provide no service, and make money.

[Kilhub-khazgoroth (Kilhub)]

Because its less options and less variety etc. I don’t want to be forced to grind for a water strider if I want a mount that walks on water. Just like players don’t want to be forced to raid if they want good gear- now there are mythic dungeons, random gear rewards for PVP etc.

The only way to purchase the water walking equipment is to do that rep grind. So your implied rationale for the change is incorrect.

[Ohenzo-khadgar (Ohenzo)]

My opinion, water walking will become Pathfinder 2.0, and that they plan on taking away Water Walking functionality at the start of next expansion. You will be forced to re-earn it over and over. Why? Again, IMO, they want to eliminate alleged “shortcuts” and slow down the leveling ; especially for alts.

[Jops-zuljin]

Because its less options and less variety etc. I don’t want to be forced to grind for a water strider if I want a mount that walks on water. Just like players don’t want to be forced to raid if they want good gear- now there are mythic dungeons, random gear rewards for PVP etc.

“Fewer options” not less… but whatever.

And arguing that it’s unfair because you’re too lazy is an argument that doesn’t even deserve to be taken seriously.