No, that isn’t “our” mistake. That is “their” deceptive business practice. If you state that one of your core pillars is building great games by gamers for gamers then you turn around and don’t abide by that pillar and go out of your way through your business models to tank that pillar that isn’t a mistake of your customer that is a lie told by the company. One that in any other industry would get immediate and swift retribution from members of the 4th estate as well as from a myriad of alphabet soup federal agencies, as a lie of that magnitude would rise to the level of deceptive business practice if not outright criminal fraud.
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Very true.
I’d like to defend Blizzard from the many players who seem to think the company is completely stupid; they are definitely not.
Short-sighted, incompetent, lazy, greedy - one could argue for all those things but no, they are not completely stupid.
They carefully experiment to see what can be sold in game to maximise token sales and time spent online, and that’s what they work toward.
Thinking they are just stupid is simply a misunderstanding of the fact that Blizzard’s two “lodestars” are increasing logged in time and selling tokens. All else these days is just a space created as cheaply as possible, within which to achieve those goals.
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I believed a liar, which means I made a mistake.
That does not mean I’m culpable, neither does it absolve the liar of their lies.
What it does mean is I’m less likely to believe that liar a second time.
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I genuinely don’t understand the issue or why is the water strider thing causing so much drama… Lets compare two scenarios, one is what we have now (with water strider) and one is what we will have after:
Currently we have:
Water walking on the strider.
Sky golem.
No water walking (nor other perks) on anything else.
After the changes it will be:
Water walking on everything.
Sky golem (unchanged).
Option to change water walking to something else.
I get that if they decided to make the strider keep water walking then you would have your other perk in addition to water walking, so in that scenario we would be gaining more but we are still gaining (as shown in the scenarios previously described).
I get that the mount equipment will cost some gold, so ok sure I need to pay a small amount of gold for every alt, and in exchange I get to have water walking on all my mounts instead of just that ugly bug.
Or maybe I’m missing something??
Honestly, Blizz can take this new “feature” and choke on it. I’d rather not have it if means breaking my water strider. I think I’ll ride my water strider even more often now just to tick them off.
Not being able to add things to game without taking away things that were already earned is really just a sign that this creative team doesn’t have the imagination of those in the past. It’s pretty sad.
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They don’t add things. They just repackage them. Take from the water strider, repackage as mount equipment. Take our talents, repackage on artifact weapons; take artifact weapons, repackage as azerite armor.
And with every repackaging, it seems we get a little bit less of what we had.
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Except in the realm of business such deceptive practices have a remedy in law which is both public and punitive.
Philosophically, I didn’t “believe” a liar, I made a “good faith contract” The deceptive practice breached that contract. It in fact exonerates and indemnifies me as I was acting in good faith. It doesn’t absolve the liar it points out the lie and punishes it when the lie becomes so egregious as to become actionable.
As for believing the second time. If the remedy in law works the way it is supposed to work I will not have a need to believe the liar a second time because either the liar will no longer be in business or the executive deemed responsible for the lie will no longer be running the show.
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Even with the water walking removed ,if you equip water walking,anti-daze or parachute the stride now is pretty much useless for your character now, you can die from a fall with any of this abilities.They removed the bouncy from the mount this last patch.
Most player that have the strider earn it after months of work now have a mount that is useless,except it still can do what it was intended to do if left alone.
Ok so the issue is that people invested time and effort to get the strider mount and now it will be useless?
Doesn’t that mean that every non-water strider mount is currently useless then?
I think what you’re missing is that not everyone is in favor of paying more to get less. Folks who only care about not feeling obligated to use the ugly bug can now use other mounts to water walk, yes.
Folks who care more about the functionality of the ugly bug than its appearance are instead losing something rather than gaining - losing quite a bit, since part of that functionality is the ability to have both water walking mounts and non water walking mounts at the same time. Going forward, that’s not an option; it’s all water walking or no water walking.
We’re also losing the ability to have water walking immediately for any character as soon as that character is level 20. Brand new players are losing the ability to get a water walking mount at level 90 and now have to wait until level 100.
Mostly, we’re losing the freedom of choice and are being forced to once again play the game the way Blizzard dictates since, apparently, any other method is wrong. You may be okay with this and the future implications of it; the majority of folks complaining about this new system, however, are not.
Moreover, if PTR is any indication, the version of water walking provided by mount equipment is less useful than what we have now since any amount of damage breaks the effect.
Edited for formatting.
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You are missing that I earned the rep by doing countless s h i t t y dailies while it was current content then paid gold for that mount for the SPECIFIC reason it was a water walking mount.
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ah, trolling - ok.
Saying an apple has been made useless by being made inedible does not mean a cricket bat is useless because it is inedible.
The logical inference would be that the strider is called useless now as it can no longer fulfill the purpose for which it was obtained.
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Easiest way to have players stop using water walking? Stop making zones covered in water! Or maybe have stream but nothing so deep you have to swim across!
I can honestly say, I have NEVER used my water strider in Silithus!
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For water walking, yes.
Been that way for years.
Unfortunately, blizzard couldn’t see the golden opportunity in front of their faces, to create and design other water walking mounts, or ones that we could work/grind/pay for that could use other abilities.
Like a clunky, huge “ship” that sinks if you put it on water.
Abilities they’re saying these wonderful sic equip items are going to give us.
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That’s a point - at least one of the 8.2 areas is going to be slushier than the swamps of Nazmir. Whatever equipment we use there, we’ll need to keep switching back to the nerfed version of water walking equipment gives, busting the old equipment and spending over 1000 gold with each change to anti-daze/parachute and back.
Blizzard could also have gone the other way, putting out a variety of water walking mounts. But that wouldn’t up token sales by creating a constant gold sink.
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That would depend on the situation your using the mount.If I were to use the strider mount during world pvp ,I equip parachute to it and just before I land I get hit within 3sec from the ground it’ll fail and surely I would die.The some would apply to my horse as well.
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Your missing the whole foresight that these items will end up being treated just like flying is now come the next xpac. Totally useless until Blizzard tells you that you may use them again after re-earning the right to, or buy a new version of them. If you believe that has not already been discussed at Blizzard as a way to yet again slow us down and prevent players from avoiding mobs or terrain, your very naive.
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actually, if you look at it another way…they slowed process of learning old schematics for the player. up until they split them, you could use catch up mechanics and learn the older stuff as you went up the tiers while still playing current content. NOW, not only do you have to farm mats from previous areas to learn you get to spend A LOT of time in those areas just killing things to get the mats; or flying around endlessly to wack at a node or pick a flower.
its a death nail to someone with OCD and starting a new toon. i spent hours this weekend just fishing in old content just to get my fishing up. what i noticed, no matter what your fishing was you still caught a lot of crap until you hit max. they need to adjust the loot tables for lower level fishing.
the water strider nerf–and that is what it is–is just another casualty of them wanting to lengthen the time played per character. so much so, i just gave up this weekend and decided i was only going to play one toon until i get flying. once i hit pathfinder 1 I will just go and do pathfinder in WoD until the next grind out. OR i may just say screw it and cancel. right now, i am really close to the cancel option.
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i havent played WoW in weeks.
I was letting our subs expire, but my sister in law reminded me that our nephew likes it when we play with him so Im going to keep the one sub active strictly for that.
But personally Im way past quit with this game.
well, not really with the game…with Ion and his wrecking crew.
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Amazing how much we see this now. Its a sentiment I agree with.
I never liked Ghostcrawler’s vision for the game (raid or die) but at least he implemented it in a way everyone could participate. But I never wanted to quit the game BECAUSE of his ideals.
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