There are a lot of things I wish I had but since I wasn’t playing during that time, I understand that I can’t get it. Ion is trying to give the entitled cyclical players everything they want to get. So ok then, give me a gnomergan pride toy and the Hand of Adal title. Reason: “I want it”
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That’s not at all the same though. This is specifically being tied to a collection of things that all should do the exact same thing and the choice should be left to the player of which one they like the best.
Keep trying, though.
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Exactly. The question itself is pretty much just like asking: “Do you feel that you’re beating your spouse enough?” (legal responses are yes/no/maybe/i don’t know, incorrectly phrased questions will be discarded/ignored!)
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This is a thread where we’re yelling at the driver “That sign says you’re going the wrong way…”
The problem is that they’re going the wrong way.
Pointing out the signs (their decision with portals, and now striders) maybe trivial.
The direction and inevitable plunge off a cliff of mediocrity and continuing player exodus is the problem, and not a trivial one.
Get this thing turned around and go forward, not back, before it’s too late.
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They try to control how players do content but they have no control on the type of content they are creating.
Wasted energy controlling players when that energy is better served by creating something lasting and memorable in the game.
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It’s not that. Not for me.
It’s about losing choice. Either ALL my mounts have water walking or NONE. And I have to pay (a small amount to re-enable water walking and a greater amount to enable other defaults which will situationally be more useful)
Now, I can choose a WW mount, or not. The CHOICE is free. Soon, I will have to pay to exercise that choice, because… why? Because Blizzard wants to bleed us dry on wow-token purchases.
Because they can’t come up with better ways to make their world challenging than by removing choices, and replacing them with pay-2-win alternatives.
And semantically, it’s absurd and insulting to sell a “Water Striders” that did and now don’t.
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The issue, for me anyway, is that Blizzard is again taking away something we already earned. Then they’re giving us the “opportunity” to buy it back. This sets an extremely bad precedent.
Added to that is their extremely dishonest explanation for why they made this change. They specifically said it’s because people feel “forced” to use the water strider, and that is a “wrong choice” for mounts if people choose the strider. If that was the real problem, all Blizzard had to do was make some more water walking mounts.
It’s blatantly obvious that what Blizzard is doing here is controlling player options. They aren’t giving us anything we don’t already have (any mount can use barding, water walking potions, stirrups, etc.). They are taking something away and trying to tell me it’s better this way.
I am amazed at the number of players that can’t see that Blizzard is spitting on them and calling it rain.
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Ok then remove the stay mounted herb picking ability from the Sky Golem. That’s a “special” feature so why is that staying.
I don’t care if the cost is 1 copper. It is my mount. I did the rep grind when MOP was current and paid 4k for the mount BECAUSE it was a water walking mount.
Is this going to break the game? No.
Is this going to royally p i s s me off? You betcha
Those striders are mine. I paid for them for one specific reason. Leave them alone
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Lol, silly forum reply code… I most certainly didn’t say what you attributed to me… ![:smiley:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/smiley.png?v=6" ":smiley:")
Some have mentioned that it allows blizzard to remove water walking in future expansions - driving people to continuously have to buy new equipment to regain what they already have.
Just another gold sink.
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I was thinking the same thing. They could have made their special boat float for example, but they didn’t. I’m sticking with the make it a consumable so we can gray it out in the future and get rid of water walking mounts rationale.
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Very sneaky and underhanded change imo. Blizz have no interest in who uses what mounts. They only care about one thing - slowing you down.
When 8.2 drops we will have flying in a couple of weeks, and therefore no need for water mounts. The inconvenience will not be apparent until the next ex pak, when we have to continually swap herb gathering and water walking. Instead of selecting what mount we want, it will mean swapping out the traits.
I would like to say this is a terrible change, but almost EVERY change these days is terrible. I will not be playing the next ex pak until flying is added because of this.
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I think I know another reason why the water strider is being nerfed.We have to explore the zones of Nazjatar and Mechagan for the pathfinder 2 so we can fly and the fastest way is by water.
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I still say let it keep water walking as in-built, and be exempt from equipment effects, since it already has an ability. But clearly, despite 4177 responses and no word of “we’re in the process of tweaks to this system from our original concept” or anything, we’ll be stuck with this for a while.
So with that in mind; best way to protest this nonsense is to just equip the water walking thing and ignore the rest. If a significantly large portion of players are just using the mount equipment they were given and ignoring the rest of the system, then it puts them right back where they are right now and forces them to re-evaluate their decisions.
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This is why investing time and effort into this game is now pointless when they go and change the way something was designed years ago for the heck of it.
I do not believe the designers have any idea of the outside world when you grind out something that nothing more than a money grind grab and then change the way it works years down the track as it bothers them due to some of the player base are doing it one way.
It clearly shows they have no idea and are too blinded by this silly decision and are still going to go ahead with it and the black lash that will arrive for their yet again another poor decision.
This only proves that sinking time (and in the end money (is all they care about)) and effort and after the player base has been lead on a carrot on a stick to do something they then try and take the carrot the away after we have eaten that carrot.
You can stick the game where the sun does not shine, i will not be apart of that game in giving my time and money so you can stick your hand down my throat to get the carrot back.
I can see why I was able to buy a retail collector’s for $50, while you continue to make poor design choices and back flips on what players have done long ago at a whim.
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I don’t care what a player’s subjective definition is. There’s a point at which the price would be absolutely trivial. There aren’t many items where gold is actually a barrier for most players.
The Sky Golem can’t benefit from the items because a) there aren’t any items that have an obvious benefit for the flying mount and b) none of the items planned for mount equipment can replicate that effect. If (or when) they add more items that are useful for flying mounts, you can probably look forward to the same thing happening to the Sky Golem.
This would be addressed with assigning the mount equipment to specific mounts instead of assigning one piece of equipment to all mounts.
Allowing a single mount to have innate water walking was the bad precedent. That mount was never sought after for anything but, and that made some players feel obligated to get the mount for ease of travel.
You can claim that this is encouraging Blizzard to rip things away and sell them back, but I can only see it as correctly a horrible design direction.
Rise of Azshara
Going to be plenty of water
I chuckle when I see the usual defenders scrambling to find solutions to problems soon to be created by blizzard. They haven’t even implemented it yet and you’re already having to solve several problems to come. It’s a LOT of work for an obviously inferior system.
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Prediction: Mount Equipment will eventually become xpack specific and will not work in future xpacks until people buy new equipment from rep gated faction quartermasters.
And if that future xpack is dominated geographically by water, there will be no water walking equipment offered. We will be forced to take time consuming circuitous routes to traverse from one location to another instead of “flying” directly to our destination over the water.
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Or with the next expansion, they’ll scrap the whole “mount equipment” concept altogether, stating they’ve “decided to go a different route.”
And then no one gets water walking, ever.
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