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You didn’t reply to the thread. You replied specifically to me. [/quote]
I replied to your post in this thread.
Because there are folks posting here and in other threads that obviously aren’t aware of how the system will work. Just because I’m replying to you doesn’t mean my reply is for your eyes only.
Bardings, hoofplates and stirrups won’t work in 8.2 or later zones. Their functionality is limited to Kul Tiras and Zandalar. New mount equipment is being implemented in 8.2. Seems like a replacement to me.
I level a lot of alts. Once I’ve quested through a zone 3 or more times, I prefer to be as efficient as possible.
World shattering? No. A strong indication of Blizzard exerting even more control over how we are able to navigate the world? Yes.
It may not be for you. GOOD for you. It may be for other people. This is BAD for those people. You say you understand why folks aren’t in favor of this change but everything else you say indicates that you really don’t.
And then gave me this lame excuse about why you reacted to my post, which explicitly pointed out what commentary I was speaking about, with the claim that I was pushing a strawman. You’re objectively wrong. I was not. And instead of admitting that you’re now handwaving as if you were talking to the world. You weren’t. You were responding to points I made.
Not surprising. Also not a big deal as we have pathfinder part 2 going in with it as well.
I have a 120 of every class and some doubles. You’ll learn to cope with the change, I have faith in you.
Or just a slight change that alters the way some things work to give all players more options at the cost of having one mount that’s objectively better functionally than all the rest of the mounts. I do like the nefarious description of Blizzard making design decisions as ‘a strong indication Blizzard is exerting even more control!’ You should start some sort of hacker group to take the game back, restore power to the common people and revert the changes to the Strider! Oh wait, this is a video game and they’re the developer. Of course they have the power and they make decisions about how everything works. That’s what developers do.
Except it’s not a big deal. It’s a minor convenience change. It’s not BAD for anyone. You seem to think that I have to agree with people being melodramatic about it to understand why they don’t like it. I don’t. I can simultaneously understand why it’s a bad change (in some people’s opinions) and make light of the melodrama.
No the point is something I spent time to earn is being taken away. The cost isn’t the point.
Since you have no profile I’m thinking you may be the same person as Drug who’s profile went to a dwarf rogue and not a human warlock. Slight of hand. Even if you aren’t, I think I’ll ignore you too! Have a lovely day.
Seems you are calling it OP based on the fact you do not have it. How exactly is it OP? Cause it was advertised and made to walk on water? Oh no! What ever will you do?
You have already said that this game is easy for gold farming to pve and pvp … so go earn the water strider mount. Exactly why haven’t you?
Also I am pretty sure if you earned a pvp achievement mount that gave you a title and they took it from you because you earned, you would be upset!
Perhaps you did to look at it from both sides – you sit not having one, ok so you can use the new mount equipment option to allow you to do so. You win the ability.
Now the other side – you spent hours at current content farming the rep for a mount that gives water walking, it takes weeks to finish. Then you dish our 4k for the mount too. It wasn’t handed to you! Now they want to take that away for those that did this? How is that fair?
It should be an option! It is that simple!
For new players – Blizz now offers a mount equipment slot item for you to be on equal footing with long term players.
For long term players – Blizz offers them the flexibility of continuing to use a mount they earned and paid for, with the option to buy other mount equipment items.
That my friend is fair to BOTH sides!! If you can’t see that, then I feel sorry that you are only seeing it from a perspective of a new player, who simply wants to be set up and established like a long term player right when they log in. I think the game offers new players a lot of options than we did back in the day, and we have every right to fight for something we worked hard for.
So just a month or so using mount equipment, but not the current consumables so limited to a single effect instead of stacking before you can fly. Unless the factions have time gates to their story content that slow down the rep gain like Suramar. Then you could be looking at 3+ months assuming you grind hard core.
Blizzcon’s WoD reveal proclaims “flying coming via an epic quest chain”.
WoD Alpha-PTR open with no “epic quest chain” and Blizzard says, “don’t worry, it’s coming in a later patch!”
Next patch comes with no flying and Blizzard say, “sorry, it didn’t make this patch but it’s still coming!”
Then we get the Polygon interview late on a Friday afternoon on a Memorial Day weekend stating: “no more flying ever again in current content”.
Don’t blame players for being skeptical when Blizzard’s own dodging and lying generated this distrust.
I don’t post often and since my concerns are partially with the Water Strider / Mount Equipment I figured this would be the best place to post.
Personally I’m not to upset about having to use a equipment to have my striders passive back. I’m concerned with the implementation of this feature. Is it correct that it is one (1) slot shared among all your mounts OR is it one (1) Slot per mount carried over across your account?
If its the first, that’s kinda problematic I only speak for myself but I don’t really want ALL my mounts capable of WW specially if for some reason I have to jump off a high cliff into the ocean while mounted and then splat on the water.
If its the latter that would be great as personally I’d just put the WW on my Strider and maybe the pirate ship and then customize my other mounts and have more things to sink gold into.
and if it was the latter they could even give the sky golems access to a slot as well but with like a mining attachment or a fishing one instead of just herbing.
Nah. Their collections are different. Unless the player has two unlinked accounts. (Even though Avagon has their profile hidden, you can still use the site search feature and find them in armory.)
One slot shared on all mounts per character. Each character can have a different piece of equipment slotted, but it will affect all mounts on that character (except the sky golem).
Each character gets a slot on their mount journal in which to drop a single piece of equipment that applies it’s effect to all the mounts in your journal. Except the Sky Golem if you have that one because it’s apparently a special kind of special.
If you slot Water Walking and jump off a cliff into the ocean, you’ll go splat just like jumping off a mountain onto rocks.
If you slot a Parachute and jump off a cliff into the ocean, you’ll float gently down to some random point and then be stuck swimming slowly back to shore.
If you slot No Daze and jump off a cliff into the ocean at least you won’t have to worry about fish knocking you off your mount while it’s dogpaddling to shore.
Cost in terms of gold, time, convenience, bag storage…
The appeal of the water strider was that it was 100% an “upfront cost” with no re-occurring expenses.
We could have bought several years worth of WW potions instead, but then there’s re-stocking and storage, variable prices and availabliity… lots of headaches we paid extra to avoid.
And NOW, we’re being downgraded to “re-occurring expenses to switch defaults, travel to re-supply, storage for spares” many of the same nuisances that we HAD paid to avoid.
And in return, we get a vanity upgrade, and a chance to skip re-mounting to enable water walking, providing we haven’t taken falling or combat damage since the last time we mounted up.
I still adamantly believe that the new water boots belong in our Heirloom Collection so that we can revert to WW-by-default on demand without cost or loss of bag space because that’s what we bought into originally.
I still believe mounts effects should be made baseline to mounts where it is most fitting: all hovering mounts are water walking, all winged mounts glide, tanky mounts avoid daze/dismount, mounts like hippos and lizards swim at mount speed.
That allows for immersive cosmetic choice.
It would allow for meaningful utility choice per mount.
It preserves the current mount farming mechanics: get the drop, get the rep, make the purchase, do the achievement.
It would deter Blizzard from messing with the mounts way more than an external consumable system that could be axed at any given moment.
Never said I wouldn’t cope. You said you couldn’t see a reason for wanting multiple mount effects other than resource gathering. I gave you one.
Frankly, this will have far less impact on my game play than the ever increasing delay in flying and the removal of Vale and Legion Dalaran portal hubs, but I still don’t like the precedent it sets or what it means for the future of the game.
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