Was told 3.6K GS was too low for H+ on my ret pally

So? That doesn’t make the bosses any easier to kill which is still a requirement to get the loot. Boss don’t care if there’s people in your group who can bid millions of gold, they don’t hit softer, they don’t not use abilities, they don’t have a higher chance to drop anything.

If the group can kill the boss they can do what they want with the loot. That can be ML, it can be GDKP, they could be selling carries, they could even be DEing it for destroying or lols on youtube.

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We had a side discussion about its workings vs carries.
You still need to kill the bosses if you’re selling a carry.
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4k plus only sorry.

Precisely, no different than any other run.

cough cough cough
Having a different loot system is still an important difference.
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We have 3 raid teams and we don’t have mandatory PTR.

Infact I was mad at the amount of people that didn’t show up, we cleared togc heroic only 1 time.

Anyway you can check if you want
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1017#metric=progress&boss=757
This is what the graphic is based on. You can see groups marked with GDKP next to them as GDKPs will often flag themselves. Originally named groups are still way more numerous.

Yall are just looking at personal gs, but it avgs out in a group, Also having a 5 man that drops raid loot should be harder than the 10 man Dropping same loot To compensate for ease of access, That said the smaller the group the easier it is to lower or raise the avg.

Sure for the distribution of loot but not for the actual killing of the bosses, bosses don’t care.

There is nothing indicating in there whether it was a GDKP run, something warcraftlogs has zero visibility into.

Yep. Its not always the group starter that has higher standards. Its the attendees.

I saw that in retail trying to get RBG. Make own group!

and people leave when they find you you have no rating, and no real experience. PLayers, not just groups starters, also wanted 1500 minimal as an example lol.

You see groups named XYZ GDKP. There’s a decent amount of them if you go through. Just nothing close to 25%.

Bosses are just bunch of code. They won’t care that you cheat or not (and to be clear here I mean RMT and others). Blizzard tho.

There’s not a single one in the link you posted, admittedly I can’t read all the languages…

Because the top guilds are not GDKPs groups. You need to go through the pages.

I mean blizzard added ML specifically so they didn’t have to care about it and groups could decide for themselves.

Blizzard added ML because that’s how Classic work. Their preference is personnal loot and they settled on group loot because that’s the best compromise for everyone.

Not all gdkps label themselves on logs tho lmfao.

This is your evidence?

You’re free to go through them and tell me how many of them are. Lots of them seems like an original guild name. As far as we can see not as much as you’d think.

Have you killed Algalon yet?

More than once, on more than one character.
You’re free to try to look for my character, it shouldn’t be too hard if you’re really interested.
I also have many cutting edge, which I care way more than any meme kill of a Classic boss that might have taken 20 pulls.