Was told 3.6K GS was too low for H+ on my ret pally

That is false.

They’re organized around the same way, advertised around the same way and people pretty much get paid and do them for gold. Not sure they’re wildly different.

Buyers are expected to perform. A guild carrying a couple buyers for a carry run is wildly different than a gdkp.

It really depends, but some GDKPs don’t even full clear. Seen that on streams many times.
Some might have a couple carries, sure some expect to perform a bit at least to get paid.

A GDKP that isnt clearing isnt worth mentioning. Those are unestablished runs that I wouldnt recommend anyone going to and are irrelevant to an algalon discussion.

I mean guilds that don’t clear are still guilds.
As far as Algalon go, it doesn’t mean because people go to GDKPs that their GDKP are clearing Algalon. I’ll be curious what medium server you claim has 10 of them clearing Algalon.

Can you really call a GDKP that isnt clearing a boost run? Lmao no. GDKPs doing hardmodes and algalon are generally 95%+ the same rosters week to week and if youre going to be a buyer youre going to be asked for logs that display you can atleast or have done the hardmode mechanics. Hardmode GDKPs have zero interest in it being a prog run.

GDKPs is only a loot method. Nothing more.

Where am I arguing that it isnt?

I don’t know what you are arguing for.

So GDKPS are boost run?

LIke I understand wanting to have a smooth run, I understand that if you want to clear Algalon you probably want a good group. I’m not sure really where you were going more with that. You can do all of those without GDKPs.

It isnt a boost run. Boost runs generally have the boosted dying at the beginning of the fight or at the beginning of the instance. Youre directed to die so as not to disrupt the strategy of the team doing content for you.

Also boost runs youre paying for a guarentee of something, youre not guarenteed to win anything in a GDKP unless the org held a valanyt auction bid before the tier released, and you arent guarenteed to win that either.

My guilds gdkp is 1 of many on Benediction and we run upwards of 20-25 gdkps a week.

The majority of my guild has people clearing Algalon 3-5 times a week.

Benediction like you said is the biggest Alliance server, so knowing that and knowing how popular gdkps are it’s pretty safe to assume that most people who are clearing Algalon are also clearing them on alt(s).

That was more a rhetoric question.
Yes they can be different, doesn’t mean they can’t be used in the same purpose. That’s originally how people were using them early on in wow. You bring a couple people that want to bid on items and you split with the people boosting.

No, they werent. In WOTLK it was the same exact format as today except it was done handwritten or on a spreadsheet instead of an addon doing it for you.

Carries - youre guarenteed what youre buying before the run occurs

GDKPs - youre participating in an auction style loot method

I did this kind of carry, so I would know.
They weren’t called GDKPs but they worked with an auction type system.
Carries can be done in many ways,

Youre comparing GDKP to being the same thing as a guild selling Mims head

And like I said GDKPs is a loot method with payout. You can literally bring people that will just bid high amount of gold and get carried if you want.

You’re probably the top 0.1% if you do that. I’ll be curious to see the logs.

What logs?

The amount of the them if I might say that your guild organize. Seeing their calendar, just clearing 2x Ulduar 25m per week and doing PTR puts you in a small percentage at the top.

You’re in a top 50 US guilds (for speed). I think it’s fair to say that you’re not the average guild that clear Algalon.

Know what if they put it in RDF with the same ilvl reqs the player base is asking for now why not?

You didn’t seem to understand why people are asking for ilvls so much higher than what is technically needed(and well beyond what H drops).