People who are in to pvp have a understanding that grinding that first set of gear is rough as in all wow history its always been this way starting out in pvp. Even in legion with stat templates.
Oh dear lord.
So why are you forcing it on pve’ers?
ok sim any cloak you can farm pre level 80 vs a furious one you can get while leveling and doing a few WG you happen to catch. Share the results
OK, I didn’t say cloak but since you went there.
Cloak of Bloodied Waters for warrs/dks/paladins.
That was easy.
Noone cares in normal heroics.
Maybe warrior prolly within 10dps while giving you worse odds of finding you way through the rough lfg system.
Yes, the point we’re trying to get to you.
But you’re still advocating for people to play this way despite the original game having a preferred playstyle path to this location.
I gave a recommendation for the game we have not some made up game we don’t have. I never even brought rdf up. You are just so obsessed with it that you can’t even enjoy the game you obviously are very passionate about. I’m truly sorry that its not here for you. This is the hand we were giving. Hold or fold its up to you.
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I eagerly await the day all these “just go get pvp gear lmao” advocaters start moving the goalposts when people start saying “no pvp gear gs cheesers” start becoming a thing.
What’s gonna be the next excuse?
Is this a joke post? I wouldn’t take you if I had other options either. I had to re-form a group because all 3 dps tried to sneak in at 3k flat GS. Get over it and go earn gear the regular way everyone else did pre H+ or make your own group and stop complaining in forums.
I don’t care what gear it drops, people ran those dailies for the badges not the gear. Again, if you want the gear and want to be “carried” as I would call it go make your own group. You think I was able to tank H+ before I hit 4k? I had to get my 535+ defence rating before I could just hope the group could heal me through it. You can’t rely on dps to interrupt anything anymore, so obviously you’re going to want higher numbers to blast through it. I’d rather not spend an hour in H+ HoL because my dps don’t understand how the mechanics work.
To clarify I’m not saying YOU don’t know them, I’m saying MANY don’t. I’ve had people give me that same BS “oh I’ve done it before”. No sir, you were CARRIED before. Examples I’ve run into = Uld 25 = Oh man I was able to heal the tank at 3.2k gs I’ll be fine! (Well duh the guy clearly had good gear and the other healers worked their butts off to make up for it). Just because I see people running around with Algalon titles at 4.5k doesn’t mean squat. I died early on a 25 HM Thorim fight (tried to dodge lightning as a melee like a derp) and I could just as easily say “oh yeah I’ve done it before”. No not really, doesn’t count if you’re getting carried. I was embarrassed to even roll despite the RL saying I could due to spending the time on the floor.
DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND, GEAR DOES NOT = SKILL. It makes up for the lack of it though and if you’re complaining over this I highly doubt you have it.
You mean doing heroics that nobody does anymore?
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Our servers must have different populations and interests. Depends on role as well I suppose. As tank all I do is post for a healer for a while, find one and off I go to whatever I posted to run. As a DPS it’s much more difficult to group for certain things I’m sure (due to needing both critical roles instead of 1)
This whole thing boils down to two things
1 He should make his own groups to prevent that if it’s been an issue in the past/present
2 Those people had very very high standards and hopefully a good reason.
BTW Didn’t mean to sound as much of a jerk in the post, tone does not translate through text and I’m 60 grit sandpaper.
I didn’t start doing H+ until I had pretty much all regular heroic blues. Unless I start doing Naxx or PVP, H+ is the only way to gear up further. The problem is the WoW community wants people in full Ulduar gear for dungeons that drops Naxx gear. If you just care about badges, go raid. You’ll have more than you know what to do with. That’s what I do on my main. I’ve barely even done any dungeons on that character because I don’t need gear or badges from them. I need both on my paladin.
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So you have multiple routes to gear up, you also forgot, OS, eoe, and rep vendors. Gtfo and stop being a whiney entitled scrub and face facts that you just want gear handed to you without the effort. Regardless of your wants and desires, H+ was not intended as catch up content but rather to keep dungeon difficulty on par with progression and on par with naxx 25 difficulty which end boss of h+ rewards 213 naxx 25 gear. Your supposed to run naxx 25 and then H+ is meant to allow raiders a way to fill in gear gaps.
No he doesnt. Only possibility is GDKP. There is no way any RL will invite him. Most are asking for 4.5k for OS and EoE.
This is a blizzard created issue, they wanted to do M+ with Normal raid gear. Bad design, bad consequences. The thought process was some guilds want to gear their guildmates. Sorry but no guild will waste time running H+ and rather do Raid.
I have 6 toons that run NEO and Uld. Most of the times other than heals we will reject anything less than 4.3. Thats ULD level gearing for NEO.
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Lol i got a warlock to 4250 gs without doing a single instance.
Doesnt making your own group pretty much negate all of this?
I’ve grouped with players like you (fresh 80s in full brutal gear).
They performed worse in H+ than all blue gear players from my experience.
It’s a shame GS is the gatekeeping standard because it’s pretty terrible in terms of actual skill.
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We vehemently disagree on GDKP but we’re in agreement here.
I like playing alts. And the GS gatekeeping has gotten so bad it’s almost impossible to find groups with alts now… hence why I wish they would include RDF.
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Like me? lol, shouldnt make assumptions about my gear. Sure ive got some pvp honor pieces, not full set though, there is a thing called boe and crafting.