Warriors currently worst class in Shadowlands?

You’re killing me, bro. I’m pushing higher keys than you do, and I’m not even actively pushing. I literally pugged that kill and haven’t stepped into a raid since.

Other than that, yeah, my diagnosis is definitely myopia if that was your response to that post. Hahahahaha.

Whoosh

I don’t do keys. There’s pretty much no reason to unless you actually enjoy that content.

Well, I do. Or, more accurately, I simply don’t have time or the inclination to raid ATM. Sorry, bro. Different strokes.

Right. And here is a thread talking about Warrior performance in content (raiding) that you have 0 experience with either personally, or even looking at logs.

So, I’m going to hold your hand through this process. Go re-read the initial post that you were responding to, this time carefully, and share a laugh with me.

ten chars :slight_smile:

Restoring the 25% haste buff they nerfed to 15% from enrage for Fury warriors would be a great start that would improve the performance and feel of the class. In BFA Fury was slow until you hit that first enrage and then the class came alive. The 15% buff you currently get just doesn’t have the same feel that the class used to have. With Fury in particular performing so low across the board restoring the 25% haste buff wouldn’t place them over other classes and would greatly improve the game play. Coming from BFA playing Fury now feels like a slog which is a shame for a spec that used to be a ton of fun, constantly smashing buttons and racking up DPS.

Blizzard does attempt to sell us back the haste they took through the Frenzy talent and Cadence of Fujieda legendary, but the slow build of these band-aids are antithesis to what actually makes Fury a fun spec to play.

So after looking at the logs for a bit, I’m noticing a couple things. Some very obvious, others not so much.
Venthyr is a popular choice, because it takes a lot less effort to maximize it’s potential. Condemn doesn’t care if the target moves around. That doesn’t prove your 10% numbers though. You need to factor in gear, team work, etc. In the top 50, you have a Night Fae Warrior. Hmm, odd don’t ya think? If none of the other covenants are competitive as you claim, how is this possible?
TL:DR - Just because something is very popular, does not mean the others can’t compete. Yeah, the majority rolled Venthyr, but I bet they were influenced by early propaganda. Was it the safe choice? Maybe, but it’s certainly not the only choice.

Also, not to discredit the OP, but are you really going to take their words as cold hard facts? They are Fury, only done LFR, and zero Mythic+ content. You should know better.

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blizzard is just bad at balancing and Borrowed power makes it even worse, they broght this situation upon us(WHO PAY THE GAME) and themselves

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Its hilarious that you’re going to partly discredit OP based on playing Fury Warrior, when it is literally at the same performance level as non-Venthyr Arms Warrior.

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I don’t discredit the OP, especially not for playing Fury. I’ve seen proof that Fury can do very well in Mythic+. No one here would be upset if warrior was buffed. Maybe you should take a shred of personal responsibility for your own performance, and not just throwing in the towel by blaming the class.

hmmm

Im doing fine. But I also recognize that as a Warrior, especially non Venthyr, an orange parse for us is a green parse for another class.

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You do realize that orange parse for warrior doesn’t care about Covenant, right? That’s an issue across the board that goes into a different discussion.

You can filter parses by covenant…

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But there’s not, though.

Because there’s a fraction of them playing.

If you had the same number of people playing Kyrian/NF, you’d see far more comparable numbers.

That’s blatantly incorrect.

They specifically reduced the haste.

Why would they go back on that when the entire point was to reduce the specs baseline APM.

The legendary is literally just taken from an old power, and the talent is just a rebranded Furious slash.

They’re not trying to “sell back” anything. That’s incredible inane.

That’s nothing more than an assumption you’re making based. The data says otherwise.

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The “data” shows Venth, NF, and Kyrian within a 3% range from each other in ST.

Hell, even multi-target shows a higher variance between the 3, with a 4% difference with Venth being on the bottom… so realistically, you’re ‘technically’ gimping yourself actually going Venth.

Only reason majority people use it is because most people are going to naturally navigate to what’s performing “best”, in ST for raids, even if it is such a small variance, and not realize that unless you’re optimizing your gameplay to near perfection, it really doesn’t matter what cov you go, aside from necrolord.

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Even if you take the absolute max of Kyrian/NF and compare with Venthyr there is nearly a 10% discrepency on every fight.

Hell, even with Kyrian having two potency conduits this week and Venthyr only having one, there still isn’t parses for Kyrian ahead, or even close.

Top parse for Venthyr Huntsman. 8k. Top parse for Kyrian 7.1k.
Sun King is a cheese fight but even there Top Venthyr is 6.8k. Top Kyrian is 5.8k.

You’re literally just making crap up.

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Both Arms and Fury are now in the bottom 4 specs for damage:

~https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/26#dataset=95

~https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/26#dataset=90

Literally work my butt off in raid (farmed normal, moving to heroic this week) just to perform the same as other well below average dps. Feels real bad. Could use a buff to be more competitive for sure

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