No she did not. A Blizzard employee said she did, but the official Book of lore Chronicles 3 counters that. He just had a Falstad is dead moment.
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I am fairly sure that Genn also has no interest in diplomacy with her, so it is win-win.
That and she nuked his city with plague and killed his only son. And also Genn broke her lamp deal thing she was doing.
I get this was written for her character, but to me this makes me see her even more flawed and a hypocrite. Although she is “undead” she herself is clinging on hope and life and she is too stupid to realize. If she didn’t, then she should’ve committed suicide again, but no, she wants to escape her afterlife of hell that she saw (hope) and she is still “living” although undead. She is a banshee queen to the bone. “Over the years they became jealous of the living and seeded a deep hatred for all life.”
Oh but all the times they wrote Garrosh as an honerable person was “a mistake”? But god forbid they should change their mind about Sylvanas! My god, it’s been 15 years and she’s committed crime after crime against Azeroth. If it’s okay for the writers to rewrite Garrosh, it’s okay for them to rewrite Sylvanas. You don’t get to play favorites here.
There was not “all those times” the one time he appeared and said something that was a mistake (he wasn’t even at the Deathlord fight that he quoted) and his actions was admitted to being a “disconnect between writters”.
On the other hand Alex Afrasabi said something that went flat out against what their book of canon lore that they JUST released right before he said that.
It is funny because Alex Afrasabi also wrote that stone talon quest and his excuse was that he was not aware what Kosak and Metzen had planned for Garrosh.
Garrosh is honorable though.
Orcs have a different Honor system than Tauren/Humans.
This is long established in the lore.
Orcs believe in Honor through combat, not living an honorable life.
That’s like written throughout ALL of their lore lol
Orcs have said over and over that killing innocents is not honorable. How’d you miss that? LOL
You mean theramore?
Not innocent.
Attack on an enemy base.
How’d you miss that?
That was so good in the Cinematic, perhaps the best part and real. She wanted to trust him and it was not a taunt. Not like he taunted her, knowing she would fall for the bait. Saurfang is the real Troll. She only ever failed because of incompetent orc’s that disobeyed.
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100% true. She would have been the best Warchief if the Orcs and Tauren obeyed. It’s called being a Warchief not a peace-chief.
Look, I hate Sylvanas’ current character, but not only Varian, the entire Alliance leadership would have just been toast if she didn’t call for a retreat. She saved the world.
No, that doesn’t give her entitlement to do what she wants. That’s what happened though, take it or ignore it.
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And when you were first welcomed in Orgrimar as a Nightborne, the attitude you got was “You Will Serve!”
So they exchanged one petty tyrant for another. There was no tact or diplomacy in her greeting the representatives of the Nightborne.
And what about the long term consequences? Enslaving the Golden Valkyr, a being tied to the spiritual aspect of the world and shackling it to undeath could have negative consequences to the entire world. Well, negative unless you’re already undead.
But every living thing could potentially end up suffering. Which would have included the rest of the Horde.
Any time you shackle spirits, there is always a price to be paid. The stronger the spirit, the heavier the price.
Alliance Lolwut.
So it they just bent their knee and swallowed their pride, abandoning aspects of their culture, the Horde would have won?
There are prices too high to pay for victory.
Also a warchief understands there is a time to END wars, not start them. Because they have to consider that War is often engaged in to create a lasting Peace. A warchief that refuses to consider Peace a desirable thing is not a good leader.
The alliance should thank her for having the courage to call a retreat. Only after the alliance saw the horde retreat did they think that its not worth it anymore to fight the legion. Many more alliance would have died if she did not call that retreat. Y’all were ready to go full Borat meets Rambo on those legion and end up losing it all.
She had her reasons. She knew there would be another alliance versus horde war eventually. She knew the alliance would not stop persecuting the forsaken. She wanted to rebalance the world. She succeeded.
“Feed more souls to a death god!”
Yeah, bad reasons. Any spiritual entity that eats souls is bad news.
Except that never ends. There will always be enemies. Sometimes from within. Civil wars DO happen. The Horde has faced two already, both times because of tyrannical despots as Warchief.
They had a chance to mend things in the book. She went crazy and ordered them all killed. “Hope is a disease! It must be purged!” She had a chance to mend bridges, but she was horrified by the idea of some of her own no longer obeying her. So she ordered them all killed.
She failed. She didn’t create balance. She simply left both sides severely weakened, and she did it to feed a death god. She openly said, in the loyalist ending, that she did it to kill as many as she could.
I thought I did that?
I thought I did that?
I…did that?
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The perks of being a leader. The grunt does the good work, the leader takes the credit.
The downside of being a leader is when your grunt goes and kills off a major diplomat because they looked at him funny. The leader has to take the blame even if he had nothing to do with it.