Yet, when everyone can have everything it entirely losses all meaning.
This feels like a good balance.
Nope. And the article that was released said as much, as well.
People asked for the option. Blizz said they’ll work on it over time.
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so just make 80% of rep account wide then? to keep it balanced?
I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you mean. I was talking about tier.
correct, there are no more tokens in legacy raids just the set piece for a specific class.
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do you thing the people whom were looking forward to the account wide reps would be happy if that was only 80% account bound?
same applies to the transmog
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It feels like we’re so close, but just not quite there. It would be nice to just have all of the loot with the same ability to learn on any toon, regardless of armor, class, or whatever.
I had bags full of unlearned items from Archavon on a seldom used alt. The 10-man version of this is the absolute worst raid in the game to try to get specific drops, but they’re all class specific, so they have to learned by a toon of that class.
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yeah they could have knocked this one out the park with a little thought.
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Yes tokens like we currently have in DF where they are for 3 different classes. There are indeed many Raids that do not use the tokens system for the Tier set items, thus the reason why this is a problem.
There is no consistency and unless you know by heart which one drops tokens and which ones don’t, you are going to have a surprise when doing some raids thinking you will be able to learn plate on a mage for example but that 1 raid does not work that way when others do!
If it was a technical problem I would be fine with it, but they have said in an interview yesterday by MrGM that this is INTENDED. For reasons of ‘‘class fantasy’’ and tier set items being important items meant to be gathered by the specific class. So then all the Tier from tokens are not special enough then ? 
I still don’t understand. They made reps account wide? I mean…if they didn’t do that with ALL reps then I wouldn’t have a problem with that either.
i’m sorry i can’t make it any clearer to you.
but is seems from your post you have understood.
i think we’re done here.
Okay XD
Well…thank you for explaining it to me? lol
hands Boffin a coffee
Ultimately, yes. But it could be made more clear by the writer. They do have a responsibility to make sure the information is accurate and complete. If many people are misunderstanding what was intended, then that is partially on the writer, imo. And honestly Bliz does have a sordid reputation for their cryptic writing.
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If they we’re concerned with this, then MoP remix would not have happened. I agreed with this especially with my World Boss mounts, now I no longer use my Sha of Anger mount because everyone has it. When before I loved it because it was rare and special.
But…
This is the path they chose, so like I said in the Original Post, you either do it, or you don’t, but you make up your mind and you don’t do it half baked.
When only half the tier sets are learnable by any class because it comes from a token, while the other half is not, there is a lack of consistency that shows they once again, did not commit to the change they made.
The same with reputations, they are making 80-90% of reputations account wide. Take Dragonflight for example, every rep are account wide EXCEPT the furbolg and the glimmer Rog racing ones. Once again, lack of consistency.
They use their ‘‘class fantasy’’ logic for all of these, but if you go half way, you already forsake the class fantasy you preach you want so badly. So go all the way. Make it consistent and easy to understand.
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absolutely.
That seems fair. Unfortunately for everyone consistency and communication has never been Blizzards strong suit.
It’s difficult to find the right balance. I’m not saying what they’re currently doing is the correct one, but maybe I’ve become so numb to their decisions that it takes a lot to phase me anymore…sadly.
Thank you for helping me understand better. 
Why does it take over time?
I remember them noting a passionate response that made them change their mind.
I’m assuming due to the coding of class restrictions on those pieces. That’s probably deeply embedded coding they’d need to change and that takes time. It was easier and quicker right now to make tokens Warbound, then go through later when they can to make all of those set pieces Warbound from legacy content only.
They said in an interview yesterday it is not technical limitations but intended! Because Tier set items are what Peter Hodge said ‘‘Special items intentionally built to be obtained by the specific class’’. MrGM Interview → 10:15 Timestamp
Funny thing is, all the tokens are also tier sets! So are they magically less important for them to be allowed to be learned by your warband.
So which is it ? Technical limitations they are hiding as class fantasy therefore lying to our faces ? Or do they get to decide which tier in the game, namely Tomb of Sargeras and Molten Core for example are more important than others to where you need to go to them on all classes ?
No excuses.
He said he wanted feedback on this as they have shown nothing is ever final if enough feedback is given, so that’s the feedback of the original post. Make it consistent, there should be no such thing as only X% of tier sets can be learned by your warband while a select few you need to go there on all classes.
Consistency.
Do NOT make players have to look up wowhead before heading to a raid to verify if that raid drops token they can learn on any class or not. That is RIDICUOUS.
Common sense please.
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Actually, that’s not what was said.
So it’s a mix of factors. And he said they were intentionally built, but were able to make some of them usable.
That paints a very different picture than what you said.
Feedback is fine. Getting nasty about it isn’t.
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