Wanted to just log on and do a couple dungeons

To a degree it’s the case. RDF does give good gear. At this stage of the game, heroic level gear is necessary to be working towards or to obtain for near every class and spec. Barring your willingness to get carried in both 10 and 25man raids. Player progression is their own decision. You either conform to some degree or you don’t get to participate. It’s a core principle of this genre.

Thats more of an cata onwards mindset, the original design was very much around having a vareity of classes and specs to utilise class specific powers.

If you have no spec variance you lack a bunch of mandatory utility.

You need a shaman for heroism even if they do negative dps and die to the first mechanic its still worth having him to press his one button.

You need 2 priests (at least one of which is Disc for shields and MC)

You need at least 1 paladin for blessings (kings stacks with everything)

You need 1 druid for gift of the wild

You need 1 warrior for the HP shout

You want 1 shield tank (for adds) and 1 soak tank (for bosses)

You need 1 mage for Int buff and food

You need 1 Demo lock for spellpower and cookies

Sounds like 7 specific class specs are mandatory for content with the tanks having a few options.

Sure after you have the mandatory buffs you can branch out into doubling up on the buffs you dont want to lose mid fight if someone goes down.

Now you can by and large clear most the content without buff stacking but people are going to want their buffs so they can parse.

It really doesn’t.

In a few weeks all players that are raiding are going to be in their BIS raid gear, and heroic dungeon gear will be useless.

Or they can just design the game better and everyone gets to play the game to some degree. Again, RDF only applies to some of the easiest end game content there is. Allowing more access to it (ESPECIALLY BEFORE END GAME) is only beneficial

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“Better” for you. Surely you understand this distinction, yes?

Finding a group is part of the gameplay. Easily argued more of the gameplay than completing one dungeon. If you lack the will or ability to communicate with people enough to form a group, you aren’t going to be able to do things requiring a group. It’s really quite simple and I’m incredibly sorry you still can’t comprehend it after being informed of this dozens of times.

Spamming “LFM TANK HEALS H UP” in trade/LFG is what constitutes as content to you?

That’s not communicating with someone. That’s putting out an advert. Do you consider posting a side table on Facebook marketplace a conversation?

You are detached from reality

I don’t spam LFM when I look for groups. I may post it a couple times, but I also seek other people I’ve encountered, ask my guildmates, or find people in the city through conversation. Again, because you choose to do things the most difficult way for you isn’t anybody else’s problem. Further, if I continue to struggle to be able to complete a dungeon that I’d like to do, I forgo it until a later time or opportunity, as I am capable of understanding that if I can’t complete the formation of a group, I don’t get to do something requiring that group.

You seem to see people as a means to an end. They’re not, and once you stop treating them as such, perhaps you’ll be able to form relationships with them. There is a condition for people who do what it seems you do; Sociopath.

You could try the, oh idk, group finder. Works for me

So the people who work graveyard shift get screwed on their days off while the rest sleeps? That sounds fair. /s :duck:

How are those people getting screwed? At 6am most people are either sleeping or getting up to go to work, it is what it is.

My bud works from 11PM to 7AM so he is adjusted to being up from those hours. It’s normal to see him on during his work hours on his days off.

Yet again, since he has to be awake, this is the normal time for him to be up. He normally sleeps between 2pm-8-/9pm, which is the biggest time for groups.

He actually does get screwed on his days off when it’s hard for him to find a group during his normal “awake” hours.

Ok, what do you want anyone to do about it?

Perhaps. Surely you understand this isn’t a fault of the game design, yes? The server he chose to play on owes him nothing in this regard. He could play on another server better suited to his hours. He could find a guild of players better suited for his hours. If he is unwilling, that’s only his problem.

I’m not asking anyone to do anything. I’m explaining to you how he actually can get screwed due to his work schedule and RDF actually would help him get groups at those hours, but I’m also not asking for RDF, at least not yet.

To be fair, it is and it isn’t. Could RDF allow him to do more dungeons? Yes. Should it be added? Personal opinions and all that.

I mean, it’s his $15 and his work schedule to be fair.

Normally I would say transfers are good if there are a queue and what not, but in this case, not really. He is already established on the server and it just does suck at times for him to get groups. It is what it is, but OP isn’t wrong that another way could help.

This is what is honestly a bad part of the community at times. The instant answer is “get friends” or “find a guild lol”. They are in a guild. The one I’m in to be exact. We have a few people who are on at night and do group but like I said earlier, again, OP isn’t wrong that a tool would help these situations so people across all servers/playstyles would be able to group at any odd hours.

At the end of the day, people will keep asking for RDF and people will continue to hate on RDF. I think it’ll come in around Uld/ToC personally but yeah.

All these people with all these “answers”. So, players just need to hop around servers and try to find fixes for problems they already had a fix for. That fix? Random Dungeon Finder.

You got all these baller answers man, you must be like some WoW god or something!

I can tell just by the way you respond here, that you play hours a day, every day. Maybe the rest of the world has responsibilities? Maybe people have jobs? Kids?

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Nearly everyone in my guild has kids. Everyone works. Those I play with are just adults with time management skills. We don’t ask for the virtual world to cater solely to our needs.

Aussie guilds have existed on NA E servers forever. There are groups who play different hours. These options exist. It is the player’s choice whether they want to pursue one of the options available or not. It isn’t the game’s responsibility to give you anything but opportunity. These avenues exist. It’s up to you to take one. If not, fine, but RDF isn’t a solution without consequences. Those consequences are more dire than you seemingly realize.

You’re basing all your answers on your experience, and not in reality. The reality is that while leveling, groups cannot be made. You Essentially have no opportunity to make groups. Players on low pop severs have no chance to do content. Players with horrible faction balance have no chance to do content.

This is not the fault of the player. Period.

Or, they can just add in RDF (an original WOTLK feature) for trivial content and you (and everyone else), and you don’t get shafted because you’re on a low pop server or are on a server with horrible balance.

“Just transfer lol” shouldn’t be an acceptable answer.

Look at reality instead of what you personally experience.

There are zero consequences, and not a single one of you has been able to list one

Are you new here?

Because they forget to dismiss their pets, face pull when the tank isn’t ready, roll on cloth gear, and forget to bring their ammo.

You will just have to keep playing with yourself if you can’t find someone to lend a hand with it.

On mega servers there are plenty dungeon groups and raids at all hours of the day bro

I figured the old “huntard” stereotype was dead.