It’s almost like there shouldn’t be any penalty to leaving a group, and that the ideas people put to punish people who leave a group have been universally worse than the current systems, you mean.
If you find yourself having so many emergencies of the type that you’re consistently back to playing within the limit of a 15 minute penalty then I’d have to say you aren’t having actual emergencies.
“I should be punished for having an emergency?!?!?!” No. And by the time you’ve got it sorted your 15 minute debuff will be gone. Resulting in 0 punishment for having an emergency.
But some people advocate for multiple hours or days for a penalty.
Sure, a 15 min debuff won’t do much, but how does it make the game more fun for people involved were it to exist?
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An emergency could very well be something that can resolve in under 15 minutes.
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What benefit does this 15 minute lockout have for the game? Just because you are saying “oh it’s short enough it wouldn’t come up in an emergency” doesn’t make it worth having. So far, the only change is that it would encourage afking in the background and doing something else, not a single actually good change has been pointed out from such a thing being implemented.
You are not entitled to my time.
Research has shown that even a small deterrent can alter a person’s behavior.
And I once had to drive dad to the hospital cuz of a kidney stone while I was tanking a key in Legion. No I would not have minded a penalty under the circumstances. Other stuff to worry about. lol
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Cool, so now when someone is a hard carry you encourage people to say “kick that guy” and afk in the back until someone else eats the debuff. The key is still bricked, nobody has benefitted, but now you have a situation that encourages bad behavior, to say nothing for higher level keys where people will fail multiple times and have relatively low success rates as they attempt to push the highest levels.
I genuinely had to double check to make sure this reply was intended for me. lol
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You don’t push though, so this will not be an issue for you.
Your suggestion has 0 benefits and adds issues. There is 0 reason to add it.
I believe it would deter certain people from trying to join to begin with, which would be a benefit to the community as a whole.
I believe it would make things worse, which would make things negative for the community as a whole.
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Detering people from playing is something you think is a benefit? Those are, once again, issues. You’d be adding detriments that discourage people from playing.
Define “people.” I could live without a certain type– That is to say, I believe it would remove a toxic element from the community.
This is the weirdest possible reply you could have formulated
Well you edited.
It would also add a toxic element to the community.
I’ve went to Stormwind because I didn’t want to leave a cata dungeon. Seeing people not complete was worth more.
(and they couldn’t kick me due to protections.)
So, I alt tabbed, watched some videos while people raged.
One has to try to be polite.
Wow, you really are something else.
Your idea to penalize people playing the game is trash. Your idea would encourage people to behave poorly to encourage someone else to eat the penalties, it would penalize people who are pushing high keys and only aiming for higher io, and has 0 benefits.
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I wish one had to try to be rational.
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Probably stop people from leaving in the event that they had an “emergency” like answering the door for doordash.
So they remain in group, go sort out their doordash, and alt tab to watch videos on youtube.
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