Wait, there's seriously no penalty for leaving a key?

What perceived ‘shouting down’ have you experienced? The thread is up. OP isn’t flagged. You’re not flagged.

You’ve been having a lengthy discussion. Perhaps it’s your waning belief in your original stance you’re actually feeling?

Dwelknarr’s wasn’t a discussion, and this-- you and I-- certainly isn’t a discussion. And I’m not sure why you would think to even claim it is when you follow up with that sentence.

As for a citation, I looked you up, and there is a whole lot of nothing there in-game.

Seems every bit a discussion as one can be. A dialogue between two people.

So cite it.

This isn’t a dialogue. lol… This is me telling you off for attacking people, and you replying in kind. That’s what you would call a fight-- we’re not even arguing points of any kind.

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/ghostlands/malrytha
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/ghostlands/cromush
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/ghostlands/nalyd
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/ghostlands/deialyn
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/ghostlands/auchemeus
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/ghostlands/aladdin
You also have a dracthyr, a paladin, and I believe a priest you’ve name changed, or xfered within the last season or 2.

Of the toons listed, the mage and warrior are your most played (which isnt much). The others have seen even less play.

Quote a single time I attacked anyone.

Why have you linked characters I clearly don’t play?

All of these have seen less play than the character I’m even posting on now.

A verbal attack in a public echo chamber can be defined as “a hostile or aggressive communication aimed at discrediting, insulting, or silencing someone who expresses a dissenting opinion or challenges the dominant narrative of the group.

To be fair, it’s quite broadly defined… Straw Man Fallacies, for example, fall under verbal attacks, so-- when you misrepresented my reply to our druid friend, and said, “Glad we can agree that tools already exist, therefore we do not need leaver penalties.” That counts by definition.

I am aware. But if you wanted me to be thorough with regards to you spending more time on the forums than in game… There you go.

That said, on a side-note, I am curious why you would move all those toons in such a short period of time if you don’t play them.

This is not what a strawman is.

If you’re referring to this:

It was not an attack. It was a comment elaborating on why he felt your stance was so short-sighted - you are more concerned with being right, or currying favor, than making an actual point.

Had it been to discredit something you’d said specifically, I’d agree. However it was not, so I do not.

But this wasn’t thorough. You went through toons I don’t use, on a single server… and neglected the one I’m posting on.

I don’t know what you mean by this. None of them have been moved. Three of them aren’t even 70.

Like yours?

You are 448 with zero keys done this season.

Pot meet kettle?

I cant imagine what you would have to do to have people leave your keys 40-57% of the time.

I jumped into like 10-15 pugs this week alone and had one person leave a key after it wasnt going to time.

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The 421 with 0 keys that hasn’t touched a raid all of DF other than vault? Doesn’t look like much is being done on that one either.

Not right now, certainly. I haven’t been subbed even a week after my most recent break. (And between Dawntrail and Remix I haven’t touched normal retail.)

The question is whether I post more often than play, not whether I’m up to date.

I don’t write the dictionary. :dracthyr_shrug:
" Straw Man Fallacies: Misrepresenting someone’s argument to make it easier to attack."

I didn’t neglect it, I thought that one was obvious as you are posting on it… And-- unless im really missing something-- That toon is still in greens and blues, so I figured you didn’t really play that one ether.

I went to update the database to make sure i was seeing the most up to date stuff on you. I listed the mentioned toons, but after the update, they were 404, which indicates they were moved/renamed. For example:
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/ghostlands/annyliese

This line of conversation is very important to the topic.

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Just saying that looking at that character wouldn’t really change his conclusion so I’m not sure why it was even worth mentioning.

I don’t think I’ve touched this since BFA?

I wasn’t aware we were discussing how many toons I play. I thought this was about whether or not I play more than I post. As per your words;

Sure it would? I’ve very clearly put time into the character in past seasons and expansions. I exist even when not being engaged with, my post history didn’t appear suddenly when I posted here.

Crazy how ‘echo chambery’ this is! (this is satire)

What is the exchange rate of forum posts to in game time

I need to know if I spend more time on forums or in game.

Who knows? I just know I’m rarely on here if I’m not playing something as well. Right now it’s FFXIV.

Every time I read the title of this thread I think, “You must be new here”.

At a glance, I would have attributed the lack of progress to being an altaholic-- And at the point you indicated you played one of those toon, I would have looked at the post count on said toon.

So, you aren’t even really playing WoW atm?

No? Did I give the impression this was the only game I play?

This is the only toon I post on. I believe I have a single post on a classic toon for a gaff from a long time ago.