Vote to Disband

[Duskears-khaz-modan]

@Akkeo-frostmourne

What you are suggesting is allowing one player to shut down a dungeon run whenever they feel like it with no penalty.

Because re-queueing is impossible apparently

[Armisian-archimonde]

@Akkeo-frostmourne

Vote kick it not “free reign”. In order to kick someone you need to get the majority of the group to agree. That is literally the opposite of free reign.

Unless you’re playing with 3 friends who all agree to troll. Then it’s free reign.

[Akkeo-frostmourne]

@Armisian-archimonde

Unless you’re playing with 3 friends who all agree to troll. Then it’s free reign.

Yeah, but there’s not really anything you can do about that unfortunately. If you lock the 4 players out of kicking then the lone player can do whatever they want without repercussions.

@Duskears-khaz-modan

Because re-queueing is impossible apparently

Might want to reread my initial post as I covered that there.

@Akkeo-frostmourne

Then when you try to find replacements they also leave because they don’t want a partial run.

[Duskears-khaz-modan]

What you covered is that you want to be able to hold tanks and healers hostage to do your content for you.

Vote kicking doesn’t magically make finding a replacement tank/healer faster, the matchmaking system does. It doesn’t matter how or why someone leaves if the matchmaking system is doing its job.

[Aqure-westfall]

If I wait in a DPS queue for content, why would I ever vote to disband? Getting rid of the problem player is so much better.

I believe you would have tanks and healers again trying to hold groups hostage if this became an option. ‘We aren’t moving until you vote the way I say.’

[Akkeo-frostmourne]

@Duskears-khaz-modan

What you covered is that you want to be able to hold tanks and healers hostage to do your content for you.

No-one is being held hostage. People can leave whenever they want to. Deserter doesn’t stop people from leaving. It makes people stop and consider if they have an actual reason to leave and if it is worth disrupting the group over it.

Vote kicking doesn’t magically make finding a replacement tank/healer faster, the matchmaking system does. It doesn’t matter how or why someone leaves if the matchmaking system is doing its job.

Not sure what point you’re trying to make here. No-one said vote kick makes finding replacements faster, and no-one has contested the matchmaking feature’s role in finding replacement players. So not really sure why you brought it up.

[Serenitynoel-terenas]

I like the idea of group disband with no deserter buff! Probably never happen though. Wish they would shorten the amount of time the deserter buff is. Also make it to where u can at least do NPC dungeons until it times out!

I did notice a few days ago the deserter buff from PVP is only 15 minutes. That wasn’t to bad. Had to que for Korraks to turn in a quest, so after i turned it in i left. I have no intense like for PVP i have only been doing it for tokens and badges.

[Duskears-khaz-modan]

@Akkeo-frostmourne

Not sure what point you’re trying to make here. No-one said vote kick makes finding replacements faster, and no-one has contested the matchmaking feature’s role in finding replacement players. So not really sure why you brought it up.

I was being charitable and assuming you weren’t as toxic as you obviously are.

I used to queue heroics to help people steamroll quests and Glory achievements, but coercive attitudes like yours are why I stopped.

So enjoy your 30 minute queues because they ain’t getting any shorter.

[Sumwun-tichondrius]

sneaky trick to get folks to self kick. Disband? Yes! only you voted to disband, so you were removed from group.

awe…

[Thelgrim-bloodsail-buccaneers]

hate to say it, but if this precludes me from getting the deserter buff when the group is too terrible to run with, i honestly wouldn’t mind.

[Badhabît-kelthuzad]

@Karvalli-proudmoore

I think it would probably work out where it’s actually approved very rarely

I would imagine in the case of LFR, this would be a useless button. I obviously don’t know the metrics, but I’d bet that a majority of players aren’t backfilling the LFR raid.

[Annastasi-proudmoore]

@Coraxus-jubeithos

should there be a way for players to amicably leave queued content.

yes.

someone who leaves queued content shouldn’t get a debuff.

you can thank these forums for the fact that they currently do.

[Armisian-archimonde]

@Annastasi-proudmoore

yes.

someone who leaves queued content shouldn’t get a debuff.

you can thank these forums for the fact that they currently do.

You’re usually the one spouting off “but Blizzard said this, and Blizzard said that” to automatically disregard any arguments that people present. Weird seeing you advocate something that is currently contrary to Blizzard’s design.

@Annastasi-proudmoore

not in my case. I very rarely kick anyone and always stop to think before clicking yes if someone else initiates a kick.

but that doesn’t mean I’m incapable of reading the rules as posted by blizzard and understanding them.

@Annastasi-proudmoore

no matter how much you screech and crow that it is, son, it’s not abuse until blizzard defines it as such.

@Annastasi-proudmoore

by blizzard’s own definition, it can’t be. what is so hard to understand about that?

Blizzard makes the rules. Blizzard defines what is and is not abuse in their game.

[Annastasi-proudmoore]

right? I am capable of recognizing what the rules are. thanks for noticing.

[Karvalli-proudmoore]

A lot of the time, people who are…less capable of thought…are perplexed that someone can recognize and speak on how something is while not necessarily defending it or agreeing with it.

[Liolang-daggerspine]

I say add a veto.
if three trolls can vote to kick ONE player should have veto power and be able to veto the kick when he knows its for garbage ‘reasons’ .

[Liolang-daggerspine]

keep the kick, ditch the timeout.
If a tank doesnt want to be there I dont WANT him there ruining the run for the rest of us.

[Cursewords-tichondrius (Cursewords)]

@Armisian-archimonde

Are Oreo’s milk’s favorite cookie? Honestly debatable…

I’d have to say they are. No other cookie comes close.

Milk prefers white chocolate macadamia cookies.

My lock cookies are tuned in to the cookie world.

[Akkeo-frostmourne]

@Liolang-daggerspine

I say add a veto.
if three trolls can vote to kick ONE player should have veto power and be able to veto the kick when he knows its for garbage ‘reasons’ .

So, how does the system decide who gets the veto and what happens if that person decides to start trolling?

[Thelei-stormrage]

I have a feeling that this individual you replied to, hasn’t been kicked for unfounded reasons. The way the present themselves on these forums would be enough for me to kick them.