You’re killing me. I just had a flashback to the old threads 
Anyway, let’s not rehash that.
Ultimately, I’m happy to focus on other classes. Sometimes what the devs have in mind is simply not what many players want.
Having said that, I do think that priest development has not been good over the years. Even the order hall campaign was basically terrible.
I wouldn’t recommend priest to anyone as a primary focus.
Sorta. I mean they both used ranged DOTs, but I play the class not just a spec. So until a warlock can heal I want a viable DPS priest spec please.
However, if a warlock can heal and DPS well without a pet, I’m a lock for life.
To which I say:
“Ahhh.
You think Darkness is your ally.
But you merely adopted the dark.
I was born in it!
Molded by it.
I didn’t see the Light until I was already max level.
By then it was nothing to me but blinding!
The Shadows betray you, because they belong to me.”
Shadowpriest Bane
Yes it’s time to drop Shadow, unless Ion literally walks over to the Shadow Priest Dev’s office and tells them to fall in line; or start cleaning out their desk. I mean even Preach agrees the spec is a pile of dung now. It’s sad to see this, but it’s not like there’s not 11 other classes. Thankfully for me, Shadow Priest was the last pre-Cataclysm class I created; rather than the first.
I’m probably one of the few, I love voidform, and I’m very happy that they are not removing it.
It’s already taken 3 years and 364.5 days too long.
Even Chakra was around for about 5 years, I think. So, anyway, it wouldn’t be the first time a bad priest idea hung around for too long.
#removevoidform
#removevoidform
I loved shadow priest beyond all reason in Vanilla and Burning Crusade. It was…indescribably fun.
I cannot hang out with shadow priest as it is right now. I’ve leveled two of them, now. I’ve tried twice. I cannot do it. The Void Form ramp-up rotation is the most boring and un-interesting DPS spec in the game from my perspective.
I congratulate those of you who enjoy it; I really do. I have a guildie who loves it and does very well with it.
But as someone who mained a priest for four expansions…I cannot stand playing the class anymore at all, and that makes me sad. I loved being a priest, but other healers have been given more flavor and more inventive tool kits – not to mention better utility. As for shadow…void form is the worst thing I’ve ever tried to play with. I hate it. I don’t know how they managed to make it simultaneously frustrating and stultifyingly boring, but they did.
And again…that makes me sad. I was a priest forever, and I hope they do something stupendously different with priests in some future expansion so I can love them again.
Edited to add (because I just saw this and needed to respond to it):
No. It isn’t. I played shadow when it was interesting. It’s not interesting anymore. You ramp up to VF and pray that everything isn’t dead by the time you get your window. Blow the window. Repeat. It’s been pruned into oblivion, and no matter how big or frequent the crit waves get…the numbers can’t make up for how utterly numbing and frustrating it is.
Also patently false. I leveled a priest from 1 - 120 in BfA (my fifth priest toon, by the way) in Holy. I healed and quested all the way up without ever even keybinding disc and shadow. I leveled another one in shadow later in BfA. I am always happy being a healer. Always. But I like DPSing, as well, and I like playing the entirety of a class. If I don’t like the other specs in a class, I typically leave it.
As someone who has historically enjoyed Holy, Disc, and Shadow for many of my years in WoW, the slow devolution of the priest from God of all Healing to “meh” is kinda devastating, and it’s not because I didn’t just level in holy like a good girl and leave it at that.
I strongly disagree. My druid is my main because I enjoy being able to fill any role and I love the challenge of getting competent with all specs of any class I play. I’m not fickle or indecisive. I’m a completionist who likes to play the whole class. That’s not a problem with the game. It’s a chosen play style. If you want to single-spec everything…go ahead. That’s a valid choice, too.
But shadow blows. I say this as someone who mained a priest in BC, Wrath, Cata, MoP, and the first third of BfA. Shadow in its current iteration…sucks. (Obviously…many players do disagree with me on this, and that’s a good thing. Everyone is different and every player’s mileage will vary)
Yet another expansion I do not get to play my main, well looks like it is back to playing Summoner in FFXIV and wondering which class I even want to main next in this game.
There was 1500 pages of feedback (other people here can confirm this) in past expansions from alpha and beta players (people who don’t normally post and are not part of the community) that they chose to ignore.
Sitting there and saying its a minority of people that dislike voidform, is completely untrue.
What’s untrue?
Shadow isn’t brought to M+ because it has the worst kick in the game and next to no utility outside of offensive dispels (which Horde already has plenty of). Unless you’re doing +5s, Shadow does plenty of damage. Reverting to any past iteration of Shadow doesn’t solve those issues.
No one is saying there aren’t issues with voidform, but if you think that there aren’t a ton of people who love it (particularly how it was in Legion) you’re delusional.
Ok. So I guess 1500 pages of feedback is just from a bunch of other delusional people too then.
Makes sense.
“As for this, the priest community on the official forums overwhelmingly dislikes voidform. That does not mean that most Shadow players dislike it. People who like it aren’t going to bother posting there because of the overwhelming negativity.”
You said this. This is an untrue statement as demonstrated by the immense number of feedback regarding how terrible voidform was. This feedback was provided by people not usually part of the shadow community or people who usually don’t post on the forums.
You’re saying that all of the feedback is to remove Voidform, and you’re just wrong.
https://www.wowhead.com/news=316369/shadow-priest-issues-in-shadowlands-alpha-rotation-talents-covenant-abilities
Tons of great feedback here. Doesn’t advocate for the removal of Voidform. This is easily one of the most talked about documents for Shadow feedback on reddit and mmo champ.
Okay so i’m just going to stop because you have obviously completely ignored what I said.
I said they ignored 1500 pages of feedback from past expansions so you showing me this has nothing to do with anything I am saying about them ignoring past feed back regarding the spec and peoples dislike for it.
Alright fine, link the stuff you’re talking about and prove that most people want it removed rather than improved.
My question is if there is such a rift between Shadow Priests why not solve it and classes with similar issues by adding a 4th spec in the next expansion to restore the old gameplay styles people are asking for? Make Void a spec and restore Shadow to shadow orbs. I would be much happier if I knew at some point I would have the playstyle I liked back, even if it took a few years.
I had the page book marked but unfortunately with the new forums all the old stuff was removed.
I did mention there are many others who can back up the fact that the feedback was ignored.
Let me do some digging and see if I can pull up an archive.
They had four years to improve void form and make it work.
We will have to wait more two years until they realize this rework was a mistake?