Incoming Lightform for discipline and holy priests. Increased healing done by 10%.
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#removevoidform
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I mean…who thought they were actually going to revert it? I’m upset it’s still around, but I didn’t expect for them to remove something they’ve been actively attempting to balance for almost 4 years now.
Hopefully there’s some improvements.
Well this sucks. I miss my Shadow Priest. Purple goo priest sucks.
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Ughhhhhhhhhhhh
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The fallback to conduits makes me think of how people said that artifact’s would make up for pruning and lack of interesting talent choices.
This right here is complete bullsh*t. A class should not be dependant on borrowed powers to properly work! How will this continue? 10.0 the exact same thing again? Only this time instead of calling it Azerite, Conduit we simply rename it into Chakra?
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it’s not about conduits/artifact or any crap that boost your damage.
VOID FORM IS OBSULUTELY NOT FUN TO PLAY.
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To those of you who enjoy voidform and don’t want to see it gone or just a optional talent, the priest community came up with this idea months ago. Tell me if you’d enjoy this and take it as a happy medium:
Void Form:
Now the class BIG CD. As soon as you use it, you start casting void eruption and go into void form. This void form is similar to surrender to madness one, where you’re in it for twice as long and it’s extra powerful. 3 min CD. Mindblast reduces the CD by 3-5 seconds depending on haste or mastery (possible rework of mastery where spells reduce CD on voidform).
That way, the big core mechanic is still void form for bosses. It last twice as long, it puts more emphasis and impact on void form, while players still get to use shadow orbs in the rest of content which helps the whole ramp up issue.
Whatcha guys think? for those who 100% don’t want to see void form gone, would this be sufficient for you?
Those who want it stay mostly do world quest content, or pet battles.
It just has to go. Bring back shadow priests prio void form.
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Honestly I don’t care what they do with it so long as we can keep the visual, even make it a glyph for shadowform.
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I mean if the majority of shadow priest players are casuals who enjoy using it for world quests etc… Why should they change just for the small tiny minority who wants to use it competitively? I’m not for or against it as I don’t play my priest aside from farming mounts etc…but that’s an argument you guys should actually solve before continuing.
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Unless the Conduits are things like “x3 insanity generation” … its going to be a bandaid.
The thing is, VF is a 20% damage buff that if we don’t constantly micro-manage, we’re losing out on.
Other specs have a short 4-5 second damage window or just the next immediate ability being used.
Fury for example, their Mastery is tied around Enrage. But its easy to get into, its smooth to get into. And you need rage for other attacks as well, so it works.
But insanity is nowhere near as smooth as Rage for Fury is. They would need huge mechanics changes to make voidform something that works. And if they lock those behind Conduits … all they’re doing is the same thing that happened to Arms.
In Legion Arms was … decent, and then once you unlocked all your artifact abilities the spec actually became fun and smooth. They could have toned down the numbers and made all the artifact traits passives going forward. Wham, the spec stays smooth and fun to play, right from launch.
But, they removed all the QoL changes when BfA launched.
For Shadow, it was a combination of Traits and Essences that made the spec “playable” and only if you knew the right combination. If you have to rely on Borrowed Power to make a spec playable … you’ve already failed.
Borrowed Power should be like 100% of personal power PLUS more!
But instead for some specs it feels like its 70% personal power and then 120% with Borrowed Power. While other specs are 100% personal power and 120% with Borrowed Power.
That just doesn’t feel fun, at all.
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And as soon as those conduits are removed its back to being broken because it was never actually fixed in the first place.
This is what’s driving me insane about their ineptitude concerning class design.
Stop using borrowed power systems to band-aid mechanics and just fix them. Why does this ask seem to be so insurmountable?
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Shadowpriest needs to roll back to WoD. If they want to have Voidform, it should be a 3 min burst cd.
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#removevoidform
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Exactly. Ergo my Arms example. Once we had the QoL upgrades from the Artifact weapon, the spec was playing smooth and fun. But then BfA launched and all those QoL changes went away.
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This is what concerns me about Shadowlands the most.
It’s clear they’re hearing us but that doesn’t mean that they’re actually listening.
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It’s nice that people are still trying but it’s become blatantly obvious they don’t care what we think, nor have they cared for the last 2 expansions. They just keep trying to make the dumpster fire work by saying “LOOK GUYS ITS BETTER NOW”.
And my god, Surrender to Maddness again? Really?
It’s like that episode of the Simpsons where they added a hat to Malibu Stacey.
There is Passive Listening and there is Active Listening.
I mean, I’m kicking back on my futon and while I’m not actively listening, my brain is processing all sorts of sounds in the area. The only time when the passive listening changes is when the sound is abnormal in some way. Then it kicks into active listening.
As to how much we can hear … different sources have different numbers. But it ranges between 500 and 1000 words per minute.
Now here’s the worst part of this. The average human can only talk between 120 - 180 words per minute. So … even at the fastest, our brain picks it all up.
But the key is, is the person we’re speaking to actively listening to us, or are they simply listening for key words?
So its not about hearing us, its about comprehending what we’re saying.
We can hear the words. Are we actually paying attention to the content? Or are we simply gleaning out critical words and filling in the rest … perhaps with data drawn from our head, which may not be accurate?