Sounds cringe
Void Elves honestly feel like an interns idea that Blizzard doesnât know what to do with. Iâm not opposed to Void Elf fans, but, they seem to be messy and confused and canât figure out what they want with the race.
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Like it boggles my mind how someone would have the nerve to come in here, make claims about my behavior, LIE about me âname droppingâ people, and not even have something to back it up.
Unless it was a matter of me calling someone out for spreading incorrect nonsense on lore and hiding behind an alt! Because I have called out someone before on that, and recently, but strangely, that is completely irrelevant to this and if thatâs whatâs being brought up here, it makes me think and wonder why someone would be incredibly upset when itâs obvious to check mounts/pets on people who constantly try to spread discourseâŠ
âŠbut if itâs not that entirely irrelevant situation, then Iâm going to need someone to go through my behavior and quote where Iâve insulted someone for not wanting something I do. And no, âI disagreeâ or my âno more elves isnât a valid excuseâ or âplease read the lore/unanswered questions before jumping to assumptionsâ does not count as a âdirect insult to someone elseâ.
Let me spell it out for people and make it very clear.
-You can come into my thread all you want and disagree with me. You can call Sanâlayn a trash concept. You can call what I want trash. But you do NOT make false claims about what I said, do NOT call me disagreeing with you as âbad behavior or personally insultingâ.
-I am 100% allowed to express what I want and do not want added in the game. It isnât toxic behavior to do so. I even gave my reasons why I am not interested in something, which some really need to start understanding.
-Because I havenât made it clear enough, I will say it again. People are allowed to want what they want. People are allowed to not want what they donât want. Not once will I ever demand someone to âbe silent and not express what you wantâ.
-I expect the same courtesy as the point above to apply to me. I will not ever deny saying I dislike something or think something is a âtrash conceptâ. If you donât like my language and decide to use it against me with what I want added to the game? Go for it. Thatâs fine. Iâm allowed to disagree with you. I wonât directly insult you over it.
-Weâre talking about things being added in video games and falsely claiming things about my behavior just makes you look bad, especially when you canât back it up.
-I do not condone toxic behavior by the Sanâlayn community either, which does NOT include disagreeing or favoring one race over another because weâre 100% allowed to express that too, just like how other people are 100% allowed to express vice versa, and once again, I never said people should not.
Now that thatâs finished, if you make a claim against me, back it up. Otherwise, donât spread discourse or Iâm gonna bloody call you out on it.
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Again.
Look at this dudeâs name.
And yet I canât name my fox the same last name as the guy famous for November 5th!
But this guyâs name is alright?
Hmm⊠No.
/10chars
I canât name my lion Mufasa either. Itâs not a big conspiracy theory. Itâs just weird rules.
Void elves do not have access to non-void corrupted hairstyles.
Next.
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I think Blizzard is run by a bunch of King James IV supporters.
Clearly Uncle Scar supporters.
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Whose that
My catty side is living for all of this. You articulate what I could not.
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The most glaring issue with Void Elves is the fact that
1.) They are super and I mean super connected to blood elves for no reason at all. Why they decided to make void elves basically blood elf traitors is beyond me
2.) They also decided to connect void elves with a plot point that we might not even get in the next 3 expansions, the connection with Alleria and the ethereals was really unnecessary. They couldâve made void elves and had them be interconnected with the BFA story for example, we already know there were cases of naga ambushes by the events on Vashj, whatâs to say that something similar wouldnât happen with experiments being done on an ambushed elf flagship at sea involving Nâzoth?
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There is something surprisingly familiar with how you post.
I feel like weâve metâŠ
Iâm not against the Light Theme myself, but I do very much also want to see the Blood Theme from MoP come forth.
Iâm also on the fence on where I want to see Dark rangers end up and I think Sanâlayn need to be their own AR to be done right.
I always forget about them.
That would be neat.
Iâd be so happy to see those.
What hypocrisy?
Fallyn doesnât want a focus on the Light theme⊠but rather the darker onesâŠ
Thats just an opinion⊠not hypocrisyâŠ
Yesss!
I think it should be expanded, but other themes associated with the Blood Elves, blood magic, death(dark rangers or sanâlayn) and even just fire in general (pheonix) should be also expanded.
Attacking another person opinion, vs. sharing ones opinion are two different things. Iâll grant that line can easily be crossed⊠but Fallyn hasnât done anything of the sort here that I can tell.
Next time attack the argument not the poster.
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Thatâs fair, and understandable too. I can see why itâs appealing to some people while it misses the mark with me. And I wonât ever put someone down for wanting it, either. To me, I just am not interested at all and am sad that the prior blood elf themes now seem to be washed away (that being fel and doing darker things for the sake of survival). Blood elf theme for MoP? How so?
In my case, even beyond DR/sanâlayn/felbloods, I just want darker themes and the âbiteâ brought back to blood elves. They werenât afraid to embrace darker methods for the good of their people. Light has been shown in the Azeroth universe to constantly breed elitism/just the overall âbetter than youâ and âholier than thouâ mentality, and I just would really like to see the more violent/dark side of elves expressed, you know? Iâd feel like they fit into the Horde more rather than less, and itâs themes weâd been exposed to on a regular basis prior to BfA.
Yeah, agreed. I think everyone knows that I would prefer an AR over anything at this point. But it gets just so⊠grating when people are like âwell they canât be an AR because elfâ and while yeah, I very much disagree with that sentiment, I sometimes will lean toward âok so will you let me ask for customization at least?â and I get a ânopeâ there too, and it just⊠sigh. Like, fine, people can ask for light stuff, âlightforgedâ concepts, whatever, but they use it to shut down people like me who want the other side of things which just gets so grating, if that makes sense.
Yeah the major flaw with them is lore. Like with Sanâlayn, it was shown in BfA they at least do have a desire to join the Horde, even if things did not work out in the end. The desire was there, and the will to do it was there. ItâŠisnât there with felblood and weâd definitely need that tidbit of lore.
Major same x.x
See this is the best of both worlds. Getting all of the above would be greatâand for other races too. I very much wish customization in general was given waaaay more attention, and we wouldnât have to worry about âwell this person is getting [concept] so now I have to argue against it or I wonât get what I want everâ.
Really appreciate this. Like people are free to disagree/attack what I want added all theyâd like. Iâll disagree, and Iâll bring up why I disagree, and Iâll bring up certain aspects of lore to defend myself. But I will (a) never go out of my way to insult or make false claims on a poster, and (b) will never tell someone to shut their mouth and stop arguing, thatâs just unfair and everyone should be able to talk about what they want added or what they donât want added.
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Wow this actually got bites.
Iâm not surprised, GD, but I am a little disappointed.
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Honestly me too. Its taken too much of the themes of the Blood Elves. weâre Theyâre so much more than that⊠or they were.
The Blood magic and use of anima for the new blood golems. It was such an amazing concept for the blood elves to play with⊠I want to see that.
Absolutely.
Blood Elves bite was one of the really neat things about them in TBC.
I canât say this the way I want to say it due to forum rules butâŠ
Forget about them.
Sanâlayn could be a poster child for what an AR is for. Similar to the parent race, but different in both culture, concept, and obviously racials form the parent.
Gilgoblins would be another good one.
And personally I think all the trolls tribes fit it too as well as Wildhammer, Taunka, and Frostborn.
And those are just off the top of my head. Not even getting into the races that arenât basically copies of a core race.
What you want is what you want. Ask for it. Fight for it.
Everyone else is wrong so long as there is one person who wants it.
(Though that doesnât mean people should just ignore anyone elses opinions. We can all engage in debates and conversation about such things without being jerks.)
I think we could easily shore that up though I admit it would be easier with an expansion that brushes up on fel again. Still. We know a lot of them existed and there is no way we killed them all.
Like with the Fel orcs some could easily have joined up and just been in the background or working from the shadows.
Even without Drevan (was that his name?) Sanâlayn as a whole could still easily have a group join the Horde based off their attempt.
It should have been a major focus on this expansion.
That Blizzard gave up for⊠thisâŠ
I donât think Iâll forgive them for that. So much hope and faith squashed.
100%.
I am guilty of course of losing my temper here and there. Sometimes I have made mistakes.
That said I always try to argue the argument or the incorrect or missing lore rather than telling someone they cannot request something. Other than that I share my opinion and try to be cordial.
Respect for fellows is a must here.
Its what we do.
We bite, we get reeled in. GD.
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Oh gosh they touched on that in BfA but never expanded it (likeâŠother things). I explicitly remember about seven of them in Nazmir being talked about in datamining playing with blood magic/blood orbs but it never coming up again.
All very good points and yeah, I really should stop letting it get me down and âsettlingâ for something less than what I truly want/have been asking for, even if Iâd settle for cust/lore.
Yeah see this would be super cool too, Iâd love to see felblood orcs and elves coming along. There could even be kinship lore there as well, surviving together after everything. We also know that outlands is still out there and âfalling apartâ I suppose but⊠still entirely functional. I remember the thrall cinematic and it showing that!
Close! âDrevenâ, not to be confused with âDravenâ the gargoyle either 
And yeah⊠gods I wish.
Major same here. Itâs why Iâm moving on very soon, but figured insight from a player who wants customization might be important as well.
Me as well, especially with sass. But I always would rather someone bring it to my attention if I truly was insulting someone directly on a matter of customization options.
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Also, maybe you should take your own advice:
You say that⊠yetâŠ
Me: âOk, where is your proof for this slander?â
Aaaaand
Letâs not âcall out someoneâs behaviorâ when youâre expressing that exact behavior yourself by attacking people. Thanks. Unlike certain involved parties, I do have quotes on the here and now.
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Wait! There was a World Quest during the Assaults!
Blood Elves using blood magic to make golems and then Alliance folk get there use a large water elemental to take em out!
Still⊠its always something hidden.
There is nothing wrong with wanting something.
Nor is there in settling for a middle ground like Cust/lore in general.
Exactly!
Dreven.
Bah. At least I was close.
It really is a neat idea though the Sanâlayn reaching in to join the Horde.
Iâve always been a fan of them taking over the Scourge city in the ghostlands.
Yes.
Iâve been called out for that sort of thing before. Sometimes its good to be told its happening. We donât always realize when we need to step back for a bit and cool off.
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I think that Blood Elves should get the Dark Ranger/Sanâlayn NPC skin tones and red eyes, in addition to new options in the Dak Ranger/Sanâlayn style. I also think they should have some (if not all) of the unique Void Elf hairstyles (with tentacles removed) shared as well.
Thatâs not even getting into the scars, tattoos, new hairstyles, new face shapes, unisex jewelry, and new facial hair Iâd like to see added to Blood Elves.
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