its so weird how everyone agrees the kirin tor and dalaran itself are neutral but the SC somehow isnt. and im sure there are kirin tor mages and citizens of dalaran who wish dalaran didnt maintain this stance just like the SC, but those feelings dont change the facts. IT IS neutral and that extends to all its parts. khadgar is above the faction war and all who want to be there must abide. including the SC
Yes. They lean to the Alliance but are bound by the Kirin Tor.
The are Alliance aligned but part of a neutral city.
Theyâve been that way for 16 years since Blood Elves were announced as a playable Horde Core Race, oddly Maleficentâs voice just echoed in my head about 16 years. Haha.
They prefer the Alliance
But are Kirinâtor.
I think we can stop saying the same thing different ways now.
youre claiming they are aligned with alliance and not dalaran fen
first statement is true
Again, itâs not hard to slap Persistent in a Silver Covenant tabard and ride off on a Quelâdorei steed with my blue dragon hawk and QuelâdelarâŠ
I just like the Theramore tabard more because it reflects what I think of as her backstory⊠someone so angry at the Horde that she gladly turned to the void for revenge once the ex-blood elves showed up and were willing to teach her.
âŠbut mostly I just spam low level bgs with her when this thread reminds me she existsâŠ
Pretty sure I know what I said.
And what I meant.
Thereâs no difference between the two statements.
This is what was being referenced.
Was he mocking you guys in this thread? No? You have no standing, specially since it happened years ago and he is showing some signs of empathy from doing that.
Meaning that they werenât recent drawings. But still, feels angering considering one side is always made to be bad unfortunately.
Thatâs on you if you feel this way.
If this is true, then why arenât Horde-players allowed to wear the Silver Covenant tabard?
Proper quiestion is why they kill horde on sight outside of dalaran. He wonât have a counter for that.
Game mechanica donât equal lore.
Because it is an allaince rep, and they are not friendly at all to the horde.
including blond hair options which has been present through Alleria Windrunner.
I disagree to this on a fundimental level, alleria gotten her power differently then those of the VE. So for her to maintain her normal looks is completely reasonable. VE was transformed into another type of being, though they are still fundimentally from the HE branch of elves.
and look where the high elves are now in game?
You mean the blood elf part of the group. The high elves portion is very much mating with humans
what does a dalaran militia the alliance only interacts with when dalaran is even around have to do with more blood elf cloning for void elves again?
Odd, They held a presence when dalaran isnât a big portion of the story too. Though they do show up more when dal is in the story. And when they do show up, they always show animousity towards the horde, except in the class halls.
How about keeping race out of it?
Heâs not talking about race, more akin to culture. Though it does seems a bit belittling admittingly.
Blood Elf players get absolutely livid at the thought of not being the prettiest elves in the game.
Elves may want to be the prettiest, but nothing beats the picture of good looks then that of a dreanei!
Actually. I want to be rugged with great beards, tattoos, and scars.
Blood elves, having long lives and some in multiple wars should totally have scars. Itâs really a lost chance at that with the previous customization pass.
It is why you do not just see Silver Covenant members bounce on to Theramore to aid in itâs defense, they are bound by the neutrality that the Kirinâtor promotes.
/Procceeds to kill horde when outside of dal, and also gleefully kill blood elves during the purge. âsay what?â
/Procceeds to kill horde when outside of dal, and also gleefully kill blood elves during the purge. âsay what?â
Ignoring that this was the moment when Jaina Proudmoore was, appearantly, the only leader of the Kirinâtor and could decide for the entirety of the Kirinâtor, despite it actually being ruled by a council, that it should flip Alliance.
Only proving my point here
To be fair, it was Vareesa and the Silver Covenant who was unambiguously murder-happy. Jaina may or may not have been glitched, but killing dragonhawks and feeding blood elves to sharks was 100% Silver Covenant.
Ignoring that this was the moment when Jaina Proudmoore was, appearantly, the only leader of the Kirinâtor and could decide for the entirety of the Kirinâtor, despite it actually being ruled by a council, that it should flip Alliance.
Only proving my point here
Try approching a silver covenent member in crystalsong woods in wrath as a horde player. might surprise you.
Vareesa
It should also be reminded, she did participate in the legion pvp weapon appearance unlock quest in the alliance version of it. She very much may think she is alliance.
Odd, They held a presence when dalaran isnât a big portion of the story too
they were absent during a faction war when dalaran was neutral. they are absent from every alliance engagement from every zone since cata after being created during wotlk. do you know how many zones and designated areas within them have been added since their introduction? when you go out in the world you see alliance members in all of these locations. but you never see SC outside of dalaran activity
She very much may think she is alliance
they simply cannot act directly against the horde without rendering dalarans neutrality a joke
but you never see SC outside of dalaran activity
Excepting one time of dubious interpretation.
The second seiging of Orgrimmar when we have one ballistae and Vereesa.
(Iâm mostly joking here, I very much think Vereesa was only there because of Alleria and Sylvanas. Also I donât know what was up with the ballistae but with no troops from the SC to back it up⊠Dubious indeed.)
absent during a faction war
They didnât take a combat role, unless they sent mages to be the support portion of the 7th legion, but they did obviously supply the alliance as seen in the 2nd seige at the least. Itâs still a form of alliance.
they simply cannot act directly against the horde without rendering dalarans neutrality a joke
They done so on several occasions, regardless of dalâs neutrality. The only time they do not act out is in dalaran itself, or in the argent tournement.
(Iâm mostly joking here, I very much think Vereesa was only there because of Alleria and Sylvanas. Also I donât know what was up with the ballistae but with no troops from the SC to back it up⊠Dubious indeed.)
I think they where supplying weapons and other resources to the alliance instead of having direct conflict against the horde. Kinda like how canada didnât actually fight much in WW2 but still gave resources for the war efforts.
I think they where supplying weapons and other resources to the alliance instead of having direct conflict against the horde. Kinda like how canada didnât actually fight much in WW2 but still gave resources for the war efforts.
Personally I donât.
I think the Ballistae is more likely a hold over from a point in time Blizzard may have considered having some SC show up with Vereesa then decided against it and just never changed out the asset.
Shes only really there because of Sylvanas an Alleria being involved.
If weâd seen more SC activity during the rest of BfA I might otherwise agree with you, but Dalaran and all its associated factions are entirely absent during BfA.
Save two particular individuals.
Vereesa and the Sunreaver Mage who tried to stop you rescuing Baine.
I suppose, but most of the war also in bfa took place off screen also, so itâs hard to say yes or no about the support. Also, I doubt a âAAAâ company would just leave an asset in like that in a major cutscene without it actually meaning something.
I doubt a âAAAâ company would just leave an asset in like that in a major cutscene without it actually meaning something.
This is Blizzard youâre talking about.
Theyâre a struggling indie company the way Activision is running them into the ground.
And they were already cutting things like crazy back then. I donât think its unlikely for them to have just left it.
the fact no elves appear could imply the alliance simply know how to engineer it and its part of their siege weaponry. they could also be from the void elves and ported in from the nether. theres a myriad of explanations for it. hell an intern could have been assigned with plopping siege assets down for this scenario and didnt think twice about it, but its all speculation. citing this is just a sign of desperation
Now I think on it⊠were there any void elves there at all? (aside from Alleria of course.)