Void elves can look like blood elves but not vise versa

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Partially true.
The only High Elves who were kicked out of their home, was those who ended up residing in Quel’Lithien.

They were kicked out following the retaking of Eversong Woods when Rommath and other magisters returned from Outland, and taught the Blood Elves how to siphon magic from living beings - which then brought them enough strength to finally kicked the scourge remnant back, at large and retake Eversong Woods and rebuild half of Silvermoon City.

The Quel’Lithien High Elves did object to the siphoning magic of living beings, and Lor’themar decided that he could not risk insurgence in Quel’Thalas at such crucial time and decided to kicked them out rather than risk infighting later.

High Elves of the Kirin’tor and later The Silver Covenant, Quel’Danil, Theramore and other Alliance cities never chose to return home to aid their people. A minority in the Kirin’tor may have returned with Kael’thas after the scourge invasion, but many did not, and they chose the Alliance over their own people at that moment.

Also, you just turned Jaina and the Silver Covenant into villains for kicking Blood Elves out of Dalaran.

No, they send spies, saboteurs and invaders.

Let us get real here, this was just Sylvanas using the situation for her own gain. The forsaken was still largely needed to protect Ghostlands, Rommath adviced Lor’themar to just relinguish Ghostlands for now, but Lor’themar refused to do that and bend the knee to Sylvanas.

It had nothing to do with Garrosh or Thrall.

Sylvanas prioritized.

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977

Spies yes(as per Cycle of Hatred Thrall had spies in the Alliance as well), the Sanctums were malfunctioning all on their own. Lastly, the night elves had no particular interest in invading Quel’thalas unless their magic actually became unstable.

They assumption is either they could/were barely getting by. I would also point out the Silver Covenant were helping against the Amani during Cata out of a sense of loyalty to their home(even as Lothermar was trying to kick them out, sounds like anyone who didnt follow his tyranical orders were not welcomed).

I would say it more like the blood elves getting a taste of their own medicine.

Except as per Lothermar himself he fear the rest of the Horde would not support him as well.

A member of the Horde and with apperently the Horde following suite.

978

Yes, that was the initial suspicion, when you first arrive, as you would know if you actually read the quest. The tune changes entirely once you find the detailed documents on a Night Elven spy who just happen to hang around the alleged malfunctioning sanctum.

Yes, Vereesa came at the behest of Halduron, further claiming that: “This is my home too” well, good… where were you after the scourge invasion? Where were you in the fight against Kael’thas and the Legion? So much for “My home too”.

Well. One decides to throw them out because they actually love their own people and would rather that than kill them. While the other kills willy nilly.

Yup. Still had nothing to do with Garrosh or Thrall. Your own fears is not the reality.

Why of course, would you rather the Horde did not commit to fighting the scourge and just let the Alliance handle it?

I think I know what your point is here - no other Horde realistically knew how much the Blood Elves could commit to the effort at that point. Lor’themar only spoke to Sylvanas and Aethas.

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979

Again, she was using the situation to get troops to fight a world-ending threat that had almost wiped out the blood elves and Forsaken.

980

Perhaps.

And the Blood Elves and Draenei had just recently used their troops to fight a world-ending threat that would certainly wipe out all life.

And this was against additional Blood Elves.

981

Should not be on BE’s, like ever, because undead paladins is not appropriate.

https://i.redd.it/w4knom0649021.png

Blizzard stated they are not recruiting.

Minor infusions maybe, but to be a void elf you require a major infusion to the point it changes your very being, let’s not forget VE’s almost became ethereals.

I have not personally seen that. Although the distinction arguement is more then just valid.

I like blood elves, but I would not call them noble.

Dunno about you lann, but even I gotten the joke since the joke was more of a jab that NB uses an slightly altered NE model like the VE uses the BE model.

You are coming off as condescending for the last 100 posts too. So I’d take a break and chill a bit bruh.

The alliance at large didn’t help the gilneans, it was the NE’s, a race who didn’t know who they where. The only reason the NE’s even helped at all was mostly guilt because the worgen curse originated from them and druidism.

While true, it also fits in perfectly with sylvannas’s character arc, she saw everyone as just another arrow in her quiver.

She would totally do something like this.

Yup, And all bets on why they cannot is because the blood elves has control over the sunwell, the very thing that keeps them sane and/or alive!

(Playable half elves now plz!)

We talking about the bug in purge of dal?

Considering the blood elves only got in the horde because of sylvannis’s word, one can easily deduce that since the BE’s still might not have earned the horde’s trust that if sylvannis decided to withdrawal that support they would be easily annexed from the horde and be open for conquest.

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982

But you do know about me because I made myself very clear.

Being to the point isn’t condescending.

Wouldn’t this be kind of a condescending thing to say if you already know I took what was said at face value?

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Lol, after reading through and catching up with everything I had to add gotta love those types of people that try to hide who they are with an alt or alts. :joy: :joy: :joy:

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Amongst other things.
The Silver Covenant was rather quick to escalate it to no escape, kill all, torture all. The next day Vereesa roams with Sylvanas and Alleria, and wishes for the Blood Elves to redeem themselves.

Safe to say, the woman is as bipolar as Jaina Proudmoore herself, turns out that magic withdrawals might have hurt some High Elven rangers more than others. Blood Elves rangers are not as mentally unstable.

That was Lor’themar’s fear yes. I doubt Thrall would though. Dude is so sympathetic he was even convinced to allow the forsaken into the Horde, on the grounds that they were misunderstood and leaving them out would make him bad.

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The reason why I said condescending is that you where trying to force a narritive onto someone to create drama, and I personally think that is a no-no.

Just chill, if he is truely trying to pull something he will expose himself without having someone try to “force” that narritive onto him, and by trying to “force” that narritive, it makes you seem less honest.

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986

I think that Nightborne was basically a HE fan being disingenuous about their identity and it was also a troll not acting in good faith. It thinks it is funny but it’s really actually a very sad sight. Colbert is funnier and Colbert isn’t really that funny. At all.

I blocked the Nightborne because I don’t feel like reading passive-aggressive emoji-filled rubbish posts.

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987

You can think what you want.

If I claimed I wanted dark Rangers as BE customization but would be okay with Paladin not being a playable class for said customization but then every other post someone said they wanted Paladins and I replied “I’m okay with that! That’s cool!”

And then when you asked me about it I said “no I don’t support Paladins for dark ranger customization” I think you’d call me out on inconsistencies too.

Finding someone inconsistent isn’t causing drama. And you are applying a narrative to me that you’re free to think but is not true.

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988

Why would anyone want a dark-ranger customization in the first place?

It is a class.

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989

Red eyes and access to undead skin tones on Blood Elf hunters and rogues would be a service for people already RPing the Dark Ranger fantasy.

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990

It’s not unique enough for a class imo.

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991

One can argue that the ones that fed the blood elves to sharks was disobeying orders, but other then those didn’t they (not the bugs of course) mostly captured and jailed the blood elves in the purge?

It makes sense, I would also assume at the time he didn’t know thrall that much to make the safe assuption that thrall would withdrawal support of the BE, but knowing garrosh though who became the defacto leader of the horde after the wrath campaingne…

But in this conversation they where not being inconsistent. You where attempting to push your narritive onto them.

It’s almost as bad as when you guys talk behind ppl’s backs. Just chill.

Most people wants it for the customization, also on that point they are forsaken purely and simply.

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992

Nah, people should not have access to that… at all… never… ever. There shouldn’t even be more NPC dark rangers in the first place, outside of those we already had.

It is a class though.

993

Nah, it’s basically marksman hunter with dark colored spells.

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994

One could argue that. But no… the High Elves never held any love for the Blood Elves, for whatever reason. I mean, I understand the Quel’Lithien High Elves having no love for Blood Elves leadership, they were directly affected by the exile. The rest, not so much. They simply want to hurt Blood Elves… because the Blood Elves went Horde - Vereesa elaborates on this in the ‘Three Sisters’ comic. Totally ignoring the multitude of betrayals coming from the Alliance.

Yup, as mentioned, it was Lor’themar’s own fears and Sylvanas played them like a fiddle. And, well… it was Sylvanas who devoted her own troops to Ghostlands, she could withdraw them at any moment, which was her main threat. Lor’themar could just have decided to lose Ghostlands and maintain hold of Eversong Woods, but he wanted Ghostlands too.

So it is just a hunter. A customization option only for hunters? Nah, that is just not okay. Another hero class for just elves… again? Nah, that is just not okay either.

Dark Ranger customization should never happen… ever.

We already had purple eyes for Blood Elves, which just does not make sense.

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  1. Lore shows from talking with a Dark Ranger after Sylvans left that they are loyal to Silvermoon and the Forsaken (given in that order) after she left, saying they will stick around.
  2. People are already roleplaying these things on RP servers no matter if you like it or not. This character for example is a wholesome grandma defector of the Dark Rangers who has come home to see her family. It would take minimal effort to implement and not encroach on another faction’s theme. At all.

Grandma candies for all. :candy:

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