That was not was being talked about. In fact there is nothing about me saying there was no betrayal at all. Simply that the Silvermoon elves were not member of the Alliance at the time Warcraft 3 happen. So claiming that in and of itself is betray is incorrect.
i donât get what my RP-abilities have to do with a conversation about how these races are different.
you realize void-elves came from blood-elves, so it makes sense theyâd have their skintones, right?
maybe they only converted recently, so their skin isnât all purple, maybe itâs cause theyâre high-elves before becoming velves, so the void didânt get toâem as much, who knows.
iâm just saying, it doesânt matter. it really, REALLY doesânt matter.
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I can think of one.
What are the others?
Youâre claiming this isnât enough for you, and I am asking if the RP tools arenât enough for someone who I can only assume engages in RP coming from a RP realm?
So from a RPers perspective on how youâre unable to RP with whatâs available to VEs I am ever so curious into your insight on this matter.
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What they are saying about Void Elves only having tentacle hair is false anyway because for example this hair has no tentacles in it.
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Right. But you also insinuated that the High Elves left the Alliance on their own accord when a poster that you quoted discussed the betrayal, which is intellectually dishonest to the true events of the story. Thatâs like saying , âSusan left her husbandâ and never mentioning that her husband cheated, ya know?
You also laughed at someone else discussing lore and told them they clearly donât know lore (which they did, it seemed) which is just really yucky on your part.
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iâve never been unable to rp with whatâs available to void elves. but then again, i stay away from elf players because theyâre so dang uppity (seriously, tried rping with one once on my dwarf⊠real snooty).
There were talks in MoP, there were talks in Legion. The last one, afaik, was when Alleria tried to recruit them. So three that I know of.
But Iâm also not a lore expert. Just someone with Chronicles who also likes to play the games a lot. I donât believe they had any talks for a long while before that, given that they were already on the outs before the Scourge War.
Yes, but not so many that you can say the orcs
[citation needed]
I have never seen it said anywhere that the blood elves were in negotiation with the Alliance because orcs were racist. Iâve seen it stated that they werenât happy with Garroshâs leadership.
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So then whatâs the issue on your end of things that you claim you have? But now youâre claiming there is no issue your RP abilities are fine with the RP tools available.
Either you can make due or you canât and insist on poaching more of the BE visual theme so I am confused which one it is? Your RP abilities are or arenât able to make due with the visuals afforded to you as is?
Though a RPer may also take lore into consideration idk and if thats the case Iâll point out the BEs the core Horde race embody the lore and visuals youâre apparently after.
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This is the normal one.
Can you tell me more about this one? I havenât seen anything about it that I remember?
That was a formality and Lorâthemar was literally hoping it wasnât the reason for her visit.
Thats not the Blood Elves considering an offer that was them refusing one.
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He shuts her down p quick too. Generally speaking thereâs a difference between someone saying âhey, come over to my sideâ and âtalksâ in regards to diplomacy.
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I canât be arsed to look up the conversations this late at night.
It was in MoP, when Lorâthemar entered into talks with Varian because of Garroshâs severe abuse of power and the mounting racial tensions. Thereâs no implication by lore, or me, that it was ALL orcs. If you want to argue semantics over my choice of terminology, feel free to I guess. shrug
iâm not insisting on poaching the belf theme. iâm insisting that they arenât poaching the theme just because of their body-colours.
seriously, the only options they got, were high-elf options, not blood-elf ones. blood elf options are the options they have because theyâre blood elves not high elves. basically, anything after kaelâthas joined illidan. such as fel-green eyes from demon-magic, golden eyes from the naaru in the sunwell, that sort of thing.
plus⊠i think the tentacle-hair is something you can say is very different from blood-elves.
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Sadly I find most Vulpera players really out in left feild with all the yiffy stuff. And i have one but I stopped play her due to the weirdness.
The blood elves have tried to talk to the Alliance but thanks to Alleria that issue was solved. Void elves will never be allowed back in silvermoon due to the taint they have. You are like the creepy uncle or aunt that no one wants around.
Honestly you all need a very thin and tall void elf model so the blood elves can have there own back and maybe the horde can get a proper Nightborne model which is way more needed than Void Elf options but I have seen most Void Elf players say the same thing
OH well deal with it, weâre more important. And thats is how every void elf player comes across. Other races need way more work and should be top priorty not you.
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That was a formality and Lorâthemar was literally hoping it wasnât the reason for her visit.
Thats not the Blood Elves considering an offer that was them refusing one.
Agreed. Iâm definitely not trying to insinuate anything else, but that is what it was. Allerie came to talk to him about rejoining the Alliance and he shut it down. So it wasnât, âblood elves trying to joinâ but rather, ânegotiations about them rejoiningâ. I donât know, like I said, itâs late and Iâm tired, so I suppose Iâm not being as clear as I could haha.
Can you tell me more about this one? I havenât seen anything about it that I remember?
There were hints at in some dialogue, nothing concrete. There were a few people talking about it, but Lorâthemar was pretty dead set against it, so it never got further than that. There was some text with one of his counselors, iirc, that specifically shared that idea.
Blood Elves are High Elves.
I thought people from RP realms who engaged in RP were more up to speed with the lore and abilities to take advantage of the world that wow has laid out for us all, but you claim VEs got âHEâ options as if those arenât BE options?
I donât RP so I just find your insight intriguing and telling.
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and void elves are blood elves. i donât- why are you continuing to argue?? why argue with me, when iâm trying to come to a sensible halfway point?
blood elves areânt void elves! itâs the other way around!
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the way they are arguing seems to imply they are unaware they are the same race
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While I too am way too tired to dredge up the video of the dialogue, I can assure you its not him entering or even considering negotiations.
It was a refusal to begin.
To think that is remotely anything close to them considering joining the Alliance again is ridiculous.
Then⊠youâre wrong.
That is not considering joining the Alliance that is specifically NOT considering joining the Alliance.
MoP at least was a true consideration by the Blood Elves for joining the Alliance⊠but they only did so due to Garroshâs specifically pushing them to it. And its ended of course by Jaina.
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