Agreed.
I’m just saying that that statement does not come with any commitment to add any additional customizations.
The denial has officially had its Quinceañera celebration and if you think about it this way it’s… kind of depressing.
(For those that don’t know what that is, Wikipedia has an article on this.)
Just saying but if the writer of a story is telling you to do whatever with the canon, that’s not “powerful”, that shows how little they care about what they’re writing.
Of course to leave some room for some wiggling it’s understandable, but there’s a difference between that and “go nuts”.
But then again… it was Danuser…
If you ignore the canon that says that golden eyes are a devotion thing and that part of the Sunwell is still arcane…
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Of course not. The commitment to add additional customizations comes from people like Ion who has stated multiple times that character customization is an ongoing process and won’t ever end. Alongside Ely saying they gave HE customizations to both BE and VE and may ultimately do more, but have decided on a few for now.
That’s all the confirmation needed.
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Is the lore team consulted on customization options?
The team was consulted on various options to determine if they were appropriate or not to the lore and universe. They are 100% on board with all of the options.
The team wants Azeroth to be a place you can express yourself.
They still care, they were consulted and 100% on board with the options.
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You… don’t realize that consultation means absolutely nothing if Danuser then goes and tells it’s ok to do whatever they want to players, right?
People like him is why we have people playing “Vampire Night Elven princesses that are long lost relatives of Kael’thas”.
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Shave out either vampire or night elf, and you could probably make a “sensible” character that works in universe. Depending on how you want to define princess.
…Not that it’d be to my tastes, but again, I try to avoid yucking anyone’s yum.
The latter doesn’t take away that the former happened.
They consulted the lore team and found all options approriate.
Danuser then mentions, after describing how infeasible it would be to provide a starting experience for every single customization, that you define your character as you wish despite what quest text may say.
I don’t see how the latter makes the former mean nothing.
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Confirmed RP tools has never been in dispute
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Credit for this take goes to Baalsamael -a fellow poster on SF-… he´s the one that figured this out (you know as a “potential path” to future Forsaken development independent from the menacing “FoRsAkEn ArE hUmAnS wItH a SkIn CoNdItIoN” BS Calia could bring to the table (I mean, usually Forsaken fans aren´t exactly interested in playing their toons as “Benelovent Holy Light worshipers”).
I do like the body paint but I´m open to further elaboration.
Belves are biologically Helves dude… also, I don´t know how people can keep their inmersion in a toon constructed in such way (the very concept of a “High Elf” correcting other individuals that no, he´s not a Blood elf while playing a Blood elf seems… awful).
Well dude, look a who said so… the same individual basically denouncing EVERY lore event is “a matter of perspective”. No surprises there.
I KNOW, I KNOW!!! As a latin american woman let me tell you everything about “Quinceañera”.
Dude, these were the individuals that FORGOT the littel fact Nelves spied on Belves in Ghostlands and in consequence NEVER corrected the gross age issue created by lorash in “A Good War”.
We´re telling you Danuser IS a careless hack, and unfortunately for the people that DOES care for quality in the narrative, an actual menace to achieve decent writting.
I guess this issue became worse after SL, right?
Because his opinion literally means canon as a “whole” IS meaningless. Feel free to RP a Troll/Human hybrid with tusks according to this input, for example. And after feel “entitled” to ask for those, or Tauren horns for Human models. Or any other absurd combination people can imagine.
Canon SHOULD have AT THE MINIMUM a “true version of events”, cause when your narrative leader tells you nothing is 100% clear and everything “can look different from a certain point of view”, they are basically telling you the story they sold you is a LIE by design, worthelss AND useless.
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Which goes back to what I said to leaving some wiggle room.
Some wiggle room it’s giving your blood elves blue eyes while the character is a warlock and claiming that he’s not that affected by the fel he manipulates.
“Go nuts”, it’s giving your Void Elf a regular skin color and say “This is really a High Elf, not a Void Elf” which is fine for roleplaying… and then claim that this is somehow canon.
I was given two options. A fancy party or getting a guitar.
Picked the guitar and never learned how to play it… because Midare’s monkey brain has always been a thing.
I’m legitimately afraid of what I would find if I go sit at a RP realm and just look at profiles…
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As the ancient woman I am, I picked an actual computer of my own that my older brother conveniently ended up using too, but he brought his fancy friends with their fancy games…
And that´s the reason why I ended up playing WoW… my older brother made me attach to video games.
I can corroborate there are some err… “players” invested in making Kael´thas their Vampire overlord who somehow comes to Azeroth. and ofc their toons are his willing followers.
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I’ve never entirely understood Horde Citizens of the Greater Silvermoon Area calling themselves high elves after there was a BIG DRAMATIC NAME CHANGE.
I also can’t, off the top of my head, think of any who still do.
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I’m not a fan of Kael I am sorry, I am a Lor’themar fan I just want him crowned king.
You can’t think of HEs who have returned home to Quel’thalas?
To my knowledge its up in the air what people would think those Elves would do, take the name or not.
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So ‘canon’ to you seems to be ‘what I consider to be canon’, that’s good to know and end it here.
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I feel like this is an incredibly ironic statement
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/winces
Oh, Lann!! One of the cutest parts about Lor´themar IS his reluctance to take the king mantle. It is what makes him a compelling character, he fulfills the “reluctant BUT competent and decent” leader trope to a T.
And don´t apologize for not liking Kael (you totally DON´T have to appreciate him as a character). Frankly, most Belf fans liked him thanks to WC3:TFT and side material portrayal like the novels… if one only gets to meet Kael´thas in TBC, one deffinitely won´t like him one bit (TBC was criminal as far as villain bat is concerned).
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Sings Baka Mitai sadly while drinking whiskey
Sigh
Maybe because “High Elf” is a race, not just the name of a faction?
Don’t reflect what you’ve been doing on me, because that’s not what I said.
But I guess you admitting to it might be asking for too much.
Canon says that no matter what you want to RP as, a VE is a VE, just like canon says that no matter if a BE warlock is using blue eyes, they will continue to be a warlock.
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What I’m saying is they take their first example as ‘canon’ despite it not being so simply due to the customization offered. But don’t take the 2nd example as ‘canon’ despite it also being due to customization offered.
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This is why I love him yeah, I think he has been the rock for Quel’thalas that Kael in BC showed wasn’t up to the task. I feel like Kael and Lor’themar are deserving of respect for where BEs are today but Lor’themar more so in my eyes, but yes I do want him crowned king.
It’s no secret I want undead elf options / San’layn etc , and in that capacity I am indifferent on him.
However I have seen some Kael fans that feel he is still the rightful ruler of Blood Elves and want some scenario where he comes back to lead again in Silvermoon and I would hate that.