Void elves can look like blood elves but not vise versa

That he was wrong about the lore side of things being that the sunwell caused the golden eyes, light use causes the golden eyes in lore.

In player models they decided it’d be a dick move to limit the eyecolor to certain classes for players. But you know sometimes gameplay stuff trumps lore. So no one cares if you want to put gold eyes on a warlock, or that you’re clumsily trying to set up a gotcha.

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I’ve always felt like this was a more disingenuous solution, as it’s confusing the point as to why Blood elves have access to “natural” hair colors, and why Void elves don’t - (Which has been explained in both in-game, and game design.) and picking off-shades of the same color under the argument that belongs to another race, rings a bit false. If you pick a slightly different shade of brown, or blonde from say, the Kul’tirans and added it to a Void elf, it’s not going to make them look any more distinct, or different from Blood elves than if you just directly ported the blood elf hair colors anyway.

I don’t think anyone “needs” anything, I think the gesture of good will has pretty much run it’s course. Void elves were justified to players for using the Blood elf model under the precedent that the visual void aspect would be prominent, and retain a visual distinction from their parent race. High elf customization was an olive branch designed to appease both sides - I don’t think Blizzard is going to poke that beehive again, and rightfully so.

It’s not a everyone wins situation if what is required for one side to win, be the direct opposition of the other side. It shouldn’t come down to “Blood elves can only get customization themes if it means Void elves get more access to their visual themes too” That’s not how it works.

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You do you dude… As a matter of fact under your premise is that the ridiculous “golden eyed” Warlock happens (cause if the Sunwell irradiates him/her by force with Holy Light, he/she literally CAN’T prevent this development as per the “lore”).

Under the actual verb used by the developer, his continued usage of Fel will make him/her keep on the green eyes… Or maybe he uses arcane infused rocks to walk in the daylight on Quel’thalas ergo his eyes look blue/purple for a few hours and so on…

See? Not reductive. Your proposal IS the reductive one and worse literally condemn Belf customization to “Golden only or GTFO”.

Sorry I almost forgot to address your question, Fenelon.

Well, I suppose amber looks close enough to the yellow the devs excuse as “golden”. Orange I feel is a color waay more widely used in regards of Void stuff (I mean the N’zoth eyes ARE badically fiery orange).

Those I think would be more appropriate for Velf toons.

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You really kicked the hornet’s nest it seems. Quite entertaining!

But yes they said they would add customization that was lore friendly and golden eyes aren’t limited to certain classes.

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Awful behavior is flagging people who disagree with you and wasting the moderators’ time, but then again, I don’t expect any self reflection from people whose entire existence on this forum revolves around gaslighting, gatekeeping and creating an echo chamber for themselves on every thread.

If I didn’t find it so immature, I’d almost respect the energy that goes into this levels of dedication to prevent people from getting a customization that already exists on their faction.

Almost.

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You can have natural hair color on VEs ?

HEs are few and far between on the Alliance, if you want that visual theme the Horde is waiting for you.

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Void elves have high and blood elves with normal skin tones / hair joining them, Alleria exists, and there are a few void elf NPC’s with natural black hair. The addition of normal skin tones show the void elves already have a diversified theme, despite all the kicking and scream you and your gang are engaged in.

That line of thinking died the day void elves got expanded customization, and no amount of pettiness or pretending to care about a distinct ‘void’ theme will drown out the rest of us who also ask for an expansion of high elf customizations. :hugs: There’s a world of people that want this besides you, your five friends that keep upvoting you, and the 20-30 (at best) Horde players that get their jollies by sticking it to the Alliance through a denial of customization for their side.

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And yet the comment still holds true because if you want a natural haired generic elf fantasy the horde is still waiting for you.

That fantasy and the core of Ions point still holds true to this day. :hugs:

Can you please provide evidence otherwise this claim is looking pretty hollow

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Hmm, then why are you complaining about losing your oh-so-distinct identity, is your identity that weak and shallow that normal hair ruins it for you? :thinking:

“If you love Alliance, you’re an Alliance player and you just want to be a fair skinned, light haired, blue eyed elf…Sorry? The Horde is there waiting for you.”

Fair skin? :white_check_mark:
Blue eyes? :white_check_mark:
Light hair? :x:

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We’re almost at 3/3, I’m just sorry this causes you so much anger. Maybe if you let go of it, focus on what you want for your team, others can focus on theirs and we can avoid having Warcraft on the forums. :hugs:

Or you can all just report and flag me since that seems to be the MO.

No more hollow than you claiming to be the standard bearer for blood elf identity that’s supposedly being ruined. This thread alone has 29 likes, despite the constant effort to bump it and keep it relevant. Yet the Blizzard announcement thread on the expanded blood elf and early void elf customizations almost has 600, and we all know the forums aren’t even that frequented.

Considering all I’ve heard is crying and moaning from blood elves about how they’re not happy with their customizations, and the top responses, it’s reason to believe most people were ecstatic with high elf customizations for void elves.

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Is yours?

Either hair is a big deal and you acknowledge that so you would understand why visually it’s important for visual distinction.

Or you’re trivializing it and you don’t need it anyways because per your own admittance you’d be saying it’s so small it shouldn’t matter to you correct?

I think Softsong said it best.

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Mine isn’t, because I’d be perfectly content with non-blonde hairs, since that’s a pretty typical staple of Silvermoon and the blood elves. But red, black, brown, white? Yeah, it would be really nice.

The ball is in your court, you’re the one bent out of shape over the possibility of someone getting new hair colors. Blood elves don’t have a monopoly on normal hair, nor do they get to dictate what Alliance gets or asks for.

The only beehive here is you and your friends bumping these threads. You’re a drop in the ocean over the hundreds that have welcomed more customization. The most you guys do here is suggest tentacles and squidward customizations in a clear display of bad faith.

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Blood Elves fulfill the generic elf fantasy as they always have and still do or you wouldn’t be here begging for options that exist as part of that fantasy.

VEs have virtually two visual themes as is, asking for the last of the visual uniqueness of BEs is on you but yeah it has opposition and yes I think it’s obvious Blizzard isn’t going to defeat the purpose of its own AR allowing a total copy cat of the parent race that’s a core Horde theme.

You don’t ever find it weird that when you aren’t in an echo chamber environment opposition exists? You seem so shocked by it and yet it’s pretty evident anywhere this request gets spammed it doesn’t have universal support. It’s almost as if the request isn’t as popular as you’d have us believe.

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I’m hardly begging, I throw my meager upvote and support behind those that fight this fight, my activity on the forums is relatively limited and speaks for itself. If anything, begging behavior is best displayed by you and your lot, who seem to be drawn to any thread regarding void / high / blood elves like magnets.

With that said… blood elves are hardly the ‘generic’ elf fantasy since they simultaneously get to play fel-addled edgelords with green eyes and access to the warlock class, AND fanatical light-wielding zealots that got their cheap redemption back in BC.

So no, void elves have nothing on the blood elves. Even with natural hair colors, they’ll never be paladins (and I wouldn’t ask for that), or demon hunters. They’ll also never have golden eyes since that’s just pushing it.

They also have no capital.

I mean, I really don’t care what you and your crew of naysayers believe or don’t believe, my guy. The number of people who upvoted Blizzard’s announcements and reacted on other parts of the internet speak for themselves. Even many random high elf customization thread easily gets multiple times more upvotes than this thread. Besides, if anyone creates an echo chamber here, it’s you and your little crew. I can already guarantee you, you’ll have the last word in this. I’m a lurker, I don’t have anywhere near the energy you, Midare, Naughtymoon, that one void elf priest Fenelon, et al have, and I can’t sit here and write responses to all of you all day.

You will, however, never be Blizzard’s only audience.

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Was clearly a jokey joke. I love my Void Elves :black_heart:

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Not at all, the thread is a bit crazy at this time. Thank you for getting round to me.

I can understand orange for Void Elves, aszhara has orange eyes and so does N’zoth.

While I personally would love to see it on my Blood Elves I can see why people would want it to be a Void Elf color instead.

Amber would be close enough I think to a goldish hue while also still reaching towards orange to give a nice color for Belfs anyhow.

Love the accusations from level 10 trolls.

I know. I meant my response mostly jokingly as well. Should have made it more obvious though… >.>

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I completely ignore Ion and go with what the original devs said back during BC That the fel glint wasn’t permanent and that with time it would fade. Not the words of someone who is completely clueless when it comes to Blood Elf lore and thinks jewelry is their main theme.

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A statement more accurately aimed at yourself / HE fans who have arguably like you said

Been more than appeased and Blizzard has other audiences to think about, like BE fans and fans of visual distinction because the complete look of BEs shouldn’t be poached and factions shouldn’t be further watered down :hugs:

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I know this is not towards me, but I think pheonix customization would suit BE well with their reviving civilization theme.

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nah you spend years trying to copy paste my race

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