None of that lore says a Void Elf can’t use the light.
The only thing close to it, is that Alleria felt pain when touching her husband after using Void magic.
Try again.
None of that lore says a Void Elf can’t use the light.
The only thing close to it, is that Alleria felt pain when touching her husband after using Void magic.
Try again.
I already knew Void Elf paladins were coming, just like for the Forsaken.
You’re arguing with yourself with that.
That is not lore, that is gameplay. No where is there story of a Void Elf “Discipline” priests. We see Umbric with arcane/void, a frost mage, warlock, warrior, monk, and Riftwardens.
That’s not “lore.”
No where is there a story saying they can’t use the light.
But there is flavor text saying they use both hand in hand now in game.
Cope harder, the NPCs saying it, makes it Lore…go Figure
It’s assumed due to stories about Alleria.
Cope harder, the NPCs saying it, makes it Lore…go Figure
What NPCs saying they are “discipline” priests ? You’re making that up because each race has a very different concept of priest.
It’s assumed due to stories about Alleria
Oh so you’re assuming because she had pain she couldn’t use it?
When even Alonsus Faol and the Forsaken can use the light and they feel more then pain, or what about DKs or DHs?
No lore says they can’t.
What NPCs saying they are “discipline” priests ? You’re making that up because each race has a very different concept of priest
I already told you that the new Voidlight Void Elf in Telogrus says she uses both.
and we have a Void Elf Paladin who uses Twilight Light.
Reading is hard for you, I know.
Oh so you’re assuming because she had pain she couldn’t use it?
She says she can’t use it, even in the recent gameplay/quest line…
I already told you that the new Voidlight Void Elf in Telogrus says she uses both.
Oooh that one. She says there should be a balance yes. We don’t see what that means though. Just like the Paladin says stars shine brighter when it’s dark. (And we’re assuming she’s a Paladin see Zandalari Prelates)
That story and lore is building. Be patient. Just stop confusing class mechanics for “lore.”
I’m good at reading thank you, it just seems like you have an axe to grind.
None of that lore says a Void Elf can’t use the light.
I dunno, feeling great PAIN from using it implies an awful lot my friend.
Lightforged are essentially light beings, void elves is essentially void beings. Light and void cannot exist in the same space, the powers clash, so it hurts them. sometimes fataly.
Until this retcon this patch.
Please go look up alleria’s short story, and the light novel talking about the events before BFA.
Oh so you’re assuming because she had pain she couldn’t use it?
considering the light and void tries to destroy each other when they connect… yes.
Oooh that one. She says there should be a balance yes. We don’t see what that means though. Just like the Paladin says star shine brighter when it’s dark.
That story and lore is building. Be patient. Just stop confusing class mechanics for “lore.”
It’s a retcon. Let’s not sugarcoat it.
So many retcons in a story full with retcons, and people wonders why no one cares about the story anymore.
Yeah cause it was hard to just give the paladin spells a purple glow instead of a golden one and simply call the poor girl a void knight instead of a paladin.
When even Alonsus Faol and the Forsaken can use the light and they feel more then pain, or what about DKs or DHs?
Not all can, that’s what makes Alonsus Faol very special.
It’s better this way.
Otherwise they would have to do even more retcons to explain why all the sudden the void is caring and able to heal easily (not that it can’t, it just takes allot of power and void’s will bending to do it.)
Not all can, that’s what makes Alonsus Faol very special.
Even then, there was story quotes where alonsous foal hates himself for the incredible pain he feels each time he uses his magic.
But it wouldn’t be. I mean not lorewise. Because lorewise paladins and Sunwalkers don’t have the same abilities or Prelates and Blood Knights. Healing abilities are there for gameplay purposes and nothing else, just painted purple to look the part.
I’m good at reading thank you, it just seems like you have an axe to grind.
Obviously you’re not, because you think it’s assumed from Alleria’s audio story that all Velves can’t use light.
But then you try to sweep the one saying she uses both under the rug.
Lightforged are essentially light beings, void elves is essentially void beings. Light and void cannot exist in the same space, the powers clash, so it hurts them. sometimes fataly.
Explain the Penance spell then? They can exist
Please go look up alleria’s short story, and the light novel talking about the events before BFA
No where does it say they can’t.
I dunno, feeling great PAIN from using it implies an awful lot my friend.
are you aware of Forsaken feeling thier skin burn alive, bugs crawl inside of them, and smelling rotten flesh from using the light. But they still do.
Not all can, that’s what makes Alonsus Faol very special
He literally teaches others to connect to the light in his storylines.
Obviously you’re not, because you think it’s assumed from Alleria’s audio story that all Velves can’t use light.
But then you try to sweep the one saying she uses both under the rug.
What one? You keep saying things without citing or providing any evidence.
I’ll look things up if you give me a place to look.
Again, just seems like you have an axe to grind.
when you combine Light + Void this results in the catastrophic reaction of an explosion
You seem to forget that the result is whatever the writer wants it to be.
They found a new name, eclipse. Done. They are lords and masters of the story.
He literally teaches others to connect to the light in his storylines.
He tries to teach that there’s more ways than just the Shadow yes. I’ve read the story. It’s a big part of Calia being who she is.
When they make NPCs of the Forsaken, we still don’t see them making “Holy/Discipline Priests.”
Healing abilities are there for gameplay purposes and nothing else, just painted purple to look the part.
people clamours to forsakens/void elves using light magic dispite the lore saying otherwise, same with LFD and shadow spec.
What do you think they would do with “purple” light.
There is already too much confusion as it is, let’s not add in to it with the sudden retcon to void magic lore further then it not being destructive to light users.
Blood Knights.
They are ordinary paladins now.
Because lorewise paladins and Sunwalkers
This may have an arguement, but there is nothing to support they don’t have the same abilities.
Explain the Penance spell then? They can exist
There is a differnce in imbueing yourself with magic and channeling it. Paladins are embueed with the magic, meaning that void elf paladins both have void energies and holy energies inside of their bodies. Lore says they would be destroyed if they did that.
Penence is also a holy spell that is channeled (priests channels spells, paladins melds light magic within themselves into a weapon)
This is a retcon. nothing short of it.
are you aware of Forsaken feeling thier skin burn alive, bugs crawl inside of them, and smelling rotten flesh from using the light. But they still do.
Very much I do, which is why I do not support forsaken paladins. The pain from being a paladin alone is more then that they would be from being a priest temperarily channeling the light.
Remember, blizz is doing retcon gymnastics just to make you guys happy.
Again, just seems like you have an axe to grind.
He indeed does!
It’s a big part of Calia being who she is.
It took 2 powerful priests and a naaru using their full access to the light to raise calia. This is not a normal thing the light does.
Remember my comment earlier about the void not naturally healing unless bent to do so with great amount of power from it to do so? Applies here.
Also forsaken fans hates calia.
Some Forsaken fans.
Don’t be an absolutist, steers you in the wrong direction.
What one? You keep saying things without citing or providing any evidence.
I’ll look things up if you give me a place to look.
I already told you, literally go to Telogrus Rift in-game right now. The character is named Voidlight, and she’s a female Void Elf.
So you can stop trying to gaslight me, and act as if I haven’t provided you with the information.
When they make NPCs of the Forsaken, we still don’t see them making “Holy/Discipline Priests.”
We actually do see some Disc priests.
There is a differnce in imbueing yourself with magic and channeling it. Paladins are embueed with the magic, meaning that void elf paladins both have void energies and holy energies inside of their bodies. Lore says they would be destroyed if they did that.
You’re full of crap, not a SINGLE piece of lore says they’d be destroyed for using both.
Quit with your headcannon BS or cite it.
Very much I do, which is why I do not support forsaken paladins. The pain from being a paladin alone is more then that they would be from being a priest temperarily channeling the light.
Remember, blizz is doing retcon gymnastics just to make you guys happy.
They’re not retconning anything that hasn’t been in the lore for several years.