Void Elf or High Elf alliance paladins?

Also love reminding Horde fans that the high elves were apperently abused by the blood elves and treated like dirt, that their hatred of the blood elves is deeper then that:

Baenan spat on the floor near the elf’s feet. "Ye blood elves wouldn’t know nobility if ye had th’ definition tattooed on yer foreheads. Pathetic, slavering magic addicts, ye even sold out yer own people!"

Talithar’s face whitened, giving Baenan the satisfaction of having hit a nerve. He realized it was unwise to bait his jailor, but he was too angry to care.

“Aye,” he pressed, “I’ve met high elves in me life. I know what ye did tae them. I come from Loch Modan; I’ve heard th’ stories from th’ Farstrider lass there—”

In a surprising display of raw physical strength, Talithar crossed the room in a single stride and lifted Baenan clean off his feet, slamming him into the wall. He held Baenan there at the blood elf’s own height, almost twice that of the dwarf’s, and stared him dead in the eye.

“Do not ever—ever—mention her in my presence.” Talithar’s voice was calm, but had a menacing undercurrent that made Baenan’s hair stand on end. He’d intended to upset the elf, but the depth of Talithar’s reaction was shocking. Still, the Horde had taken Baenan captive and denied him the chance to fight with weapons, so he battled with words. And this mage was a symbol of everything he despised.

“I see ye know Vyrin Swiftwind,” Baenan said, purely out of spite. “Someone special tae ye? Well, she hates yer kind now, an’ everything ye stand fer!”

Talithar threw Baenan to the floor. The dwarf landed painfully on his shoulder, bracing himself for the mage’s wrath, but Talithar possessed a surprising amount of restraint and took no further action.

Baenan managed to push himself into a sitting position. His shoulder throbbed, but it was worth it to have provoked the blood elf. Talithar’s head was bowed, and his fists were clenched and white at the knuckles. He looked up, and Baenan’s mouth fell open.

Talithar’s face was streaked with tears.

“A wife does tend to be someone special to her husband.” His voice was thick with rage, humiliation, and despair. He reached into the front of his robe and wrenched a thin gold chain from around his neck, hurling it at Baenan’s feet. The necklace boasted no beads or pendant, just two exquisitely crafted rings, a man’s and a woman’s, high elven in design.

"You think I do not know what I am? We sin’dorei were given a choice: our integrity or our well-being. As if that were any kind of choice at all. I chose my well-being. My wife chose her integrity."

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A paladin is just a Warrior + Priest. They aren’t bound by law to use the Light. They can just as easily utilize the Void instead.

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It breaks nothing.

They original paladins did exactly that. Put on armor and used their faith (the Light) to empower their attacks.

Nothing stopping shadow priests doing the exact same thing.

Only difference is the powers would be void based.

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In hindsight, I can see it being done simply for a new expac fore-shadowing.
Too much void being used from us

Cue Void Lords expac.

You’re ignoring the fact that we’re telling you that you cannot be paladin.
Voids can’t be paladins.

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They can’t be Paladins yet and nothing is stopping them from actually becoming Paladins canonically.

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good, you’re grasping the reality for once.

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No no, he’s got a point in the YET
See my above post.
We all know Blizzard loves patting themselves on the back and changing up lore knee-jerk style.

No one was going against reality…

Lore wouldn’t be getting changed.

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Yeah, and Orcs can’t be priests! :joy:

No lore would be changed.

Paladins welding the Light would be the same as they were.

All that would be added is a group of void based paladins. Which changes nothing.

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If you’re not going to gauge with the conversation in any meaningful way, why stick around? You’re just making regressive comments that have already been debunked because you can’t actually form a cohesive thought beyond “muh void can’t be light.”

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Orcs aren’t void beings.

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This always feels a bit gross to me. It’s like an abused spouse still making excuses for the abuser. It’s using the struggles of the desperate to survive without the resources others have to shame and degrade them, just a really bad call by the author in my opinion.

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Except the high eves did not have the resources either and they still chose not to suck mana because they knew it would alter them as a person.

She did not abuse her husband and in fact was herself a victim of a government that wanted to toss out any disenting voice.

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Except for say the Dalaran high elves who drained mana from artifacts while their kin were struggling to survive.

This is one of the big problems I have with the push for High Elves. The way it negatively impacts the Blood Elf story. This was the story of a people in a crisis that did what they needed to do to try and save as many of those that remained. They weren’t all rangers who were in peak physical condition and already not too tied to the arcane so they could meditate it away, and they did not have the resources of the elves in dalaran who were surrounded by magical artifacts they could snack on.

But instead of a group of people taking a dark, but seemingly necessary measure to ensure their survival, with the addition of lore that makes it seem like a huge number of high elves are around and did just fine it turns into needless cruelty.

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these are coming back to Quel’Thalas, one of the Horde’s capital.

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And there are blood elves leaving Quel’thalas and joining the void elves. And considering Blizzard refuses to ever talk about population aside from vague terms I doubt it will matter that there are high elves rejoining Quel’thelas. There will be enough high elves who have a beef with the blood elves to not make it matter.

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I prefer void elves over high elves myself, and really don’t see a major lore problem if they make paladin available. Priests can cast shadow spells from the beginning. I would call it Righteous indignation where you become so crazed that all your light is gone for a moment.

I would allow NElf and Nightbourne paladin/shaman first.

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There isn’t really a “first”

If paladin is opened up to any race, it will be opened up to all of them at once. That is the precedent set with priest, rogue, and mage.

Same goes for Shaman and all other classes not yet universally available.

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