Void Elf-High Elf Customization Thread

yea that will probably take another 20 years for blizzard to add though.

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Really? The last time I checked itā€™s you people that act like undesirables because people donā€™t agree with you, so you start flinging insults, say someone is trying to deny you or gatekeep, etc. as if.

hmmm :joy: :thinking:

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Iā€™m not even sure it ever wouldā€¦ I wonder what it would take with how WoW is setupā€¦

you hardly know me at all do not lump me in with those of those high elf threads lol , i had an opinion boo hoo

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The thing with High Elves is that they wouldā€™ve been perfect as an Allied Race, because their story, like all other Allied Races, was already told across the lifespan of the game. There isnā€™t a reason to take High Elf lore/story any further than it is.

Thatā€™s why Iā€™m not concerned about Void Elves not getting more story in lieu of more High Elf content. Between the two races, oneā€™s story is unfolding, and the other is sufficiently covered so that the race needs no more than window dressing for the sheer sake of being represented going forward.

What Iā€™d like to see in the future (at some point, not right away, Iā€™m well aware other races, allied or core, still need more work) is a dedicated Void Elf pass that focuses on two things. The first, is including more void themed customization, and the second is making sure customizations going forward can fit both Void Elves and High Elves.

As an example, a tentacle toggle. There are some hairstyles without tentacles that could look more void-themed with their addition. Some hairstyles almost work for the High Elf thematic, except for the tentacles. Furthermore, this allows for new hairstyles to be added to the Void Elf race that could be clean and very High Elf themed on their own, but easily made to look Void Elven with the addition of tentacles and Void Elven colors.

Warpaint would be another example. We could see Warpaint with Purple, Blue, and Silver. Purple and Blue are very void themed, but blue and silver also work for High Elves. Even better, maybe a few war paint color options that have glowing void-star effects, like you see on the ground in Telogrus. At the same time I would want this Warpaint option to be copy/pasted to Blood Elves in colors of Green, Red, and Gold. Blood Elves deserve more things.

Scars would be another example. Scars should be a thing all races have, but Iā€™d love to see some void-scars, like a crack in the face with purple glowing void energy around it.

Something else that I want to see is Entropic Embrace customizable. I want Void Elves to be able to pick the hue, any effects like photo-negative hair or swirling star effects like Voidwalkers have, or perhaps those crystalline dark naaru wings from the heritage armor. At the same time I would want this customization to include options for no change to oneā€™s appearance at all when the racial procs. Something for High Elf players, but the real meat of this customization benefits Void Elf players. Also, I want a new cosmetic racial that allows Void Elves to activate the visual effect of entropic embrace whenever they want, and last until itā€™s toggled off.

Those are things I would like to see in a dedicated Void Elf customization pass; new additions mostly for Void Elves, but which can support High Elf play, and again, copy/paste some of this stuff to Blood Elves. There is no reason a Blood Elf couldnā€™t have a fel-glowing scar (or even just a normal glowing scar). Lorā€™themar has a scar. Come on!

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Donā€™t want me to lump you in with them donā€™t act like them, simple as that.

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They need to just add a color wheel for changing outfit colors :sunglasses: :partying_face:

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same could be said to you guys aswell

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As opposed to the toxic assertion that such a request be invalid.

Then there is no issue. 'Tis as valid, and so, though one is in the process of implementation, both stances are thus valid.

In some cases it can so be.
Such as hither, whither void elves are just blood elves afflicted with void magic. Considering that in theyr original implementation theyr affliction was with fel, and the only relevant effect thereof were green eyes, the additions are far from unreasonable.

Are they Blizzard now?
Have they infiltrated theyr headquarters and forced the developers to implement such things as thou findest unbecoming?
Because if they are not, then I am sorry to say they but proved a better advocate than thee.

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I have people lumping me in with people all the time simply because Iā€™m friends with people on all sides of this topic, donā€™t even try that with me.

In their eyes we probably have. They are also convinced that we do mass flag brigades trying to get them banned despite the fact that they are still on GD unsilenced. The reality is we are just asking for things because we want them.

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Are we? Arenā€™t we doing the same damn thing and advocating to Blizzard that weā€™d like them to listen to our concerns at least once?

And what does this have to do with the fact that itā€™s an absolute jerk thing to use the argument ā€œYou should only ask for things to change your race to be unique now that our request has destroyed that, but you arenā€™t allowed to argue that you should have anything to yourselves to be unique.ā€

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They should have added High Elves as an Allied Race. But they didnā€™t. This was always going to be a consequence of thatā€¦ andā€¦ if they did any metrics on what skin color / hair color people actually use theyā€™ll notice that very few use void options.

Iā€™ve got a few void elves.

Weā€™re not even on Azeroth right now and all that we have around are Death Knightsā€¦ Iā€™d like to see more High Elf lore though. More Void Elf lore is fine. Their story is kind of done. =\

Hopefully it shows up again.

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Hair Styles. Very few no tentacle hair cuts.

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not just referring to you only

Not quite, for thou art asking of them to forestall the changes the existence of which they have already availed to the community at large.
Insofar as speaking thy mind, though, thou art the same.

Blood elves are yet unique. They possess racials, a capital, an heritage armor, as well as belong to the Horde besides. Dark Ranger visuals would be a fine implementation thereto, as well as such customization options as would a Farstrider hath, and so if thine issue be so superficial, considering Blizzard seemeth already bent to theyr present course, 'twould be a better use of thy time to lobby therefore than to railest hereagainst.

Ultimately my position is that thy time would be better spent otherwhere than arguing this front, for it seemeth already lost. Time is precious, after all.

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I can see that viewpoint. I also more or less agree theres not much more reason to take High Elves into the future storywiseā€¦

I very much hope to see where Void Elves are going though.

Iā€™m less interested in the second bit but the first bit would definitely be nice.

On the off chance you havenā€™t seen yet heres my thread about Void based options.

Youā€™ll see that I have linked many helf velf cross items along with more void ones.

Tentacle toggle for me is a void option. We started with hairstyles that have and dont have them. Giving a toggle while I recognize is a major interest of helf pros is to me just finishing up a void based option. (There are many who disagree with me on this and I respect that.)

It expands the hair styles that we can have tentacles on and the ones we that already do can not have them.

I want Farstrider tattoos to be both.

The Velf ones would be more like Alleriaā€™s thin and winding.

the Belf ones would be more like Braveheart. Thick and strong. Much like the ones from WCII.

Iā€™m less concerned with colors at this point but Iā€™d be fine if they were set per side.

This.

Full stop. lol

I can get behind all of this.

Iā€™d be willing to let this slide myself. But I know a lot of folk who would be a bit upset by it.

Not just anti side mind.

Donā€™t mind this at all. Like a Shadowform but deeper. lol

Sure works for me.

Iā€™d want it to be not a copy paste to Blood Elves though. Iā€™d hope that Blood Elves would get their pass before another pass hits Void Elves. Just seems fair at this point.

That would be nice. I hear that its not that simple in WoW sadly.

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I R R E L E V A N T. You said (and I quote):

Implying core races do NOT need to have unique things of their own, ergo, congrats, you area hypocrite whose anti-Belfer agenda got exposed kicker than rats on a sinking ship.

If you are ā€œProā€ customization stuff, you shouldnĀ“t have ANY issue with Belves getting their own things different from hair colors and hairstyles (which WONĀ“T be unique after 9.1.5), so?

We going back to the argument of a hour ago? Who said Belves were nothing but about edginess for the sake of edginess? the lore certainly didnĀ“t.

Not our fault the Velf lore made them a race about edginess for the sake of edginess man, take that complain with Blizz. Belves happily learned their lesson in TBC and while practical and pragmatic, they arenĀ“t suicidal yet.

They NEED to get these customizations is only to CORRECT the apalling intro lore that put them in the place they are. Cause -as I said before- Void doesnĀ“t make them evil BUT researching a void source that could had doomed their whole race (Helves included) WAS supremely stupid.

They need to be portrayed nor merely as ā€œmilitary conveniencesā€ but as individuals whose choice has to bring some REAL merit.

Dudeā€¦ since yestreday most ā€œantisā€ like me literally conceded the defeat and moved on. I have NOT said anything related to how you guys shouldnĀ“t or wonĀ“t get your hair color + hair style cloned combo. IĀ“m just here to take with me the few pro Belfers I can and to try to limit the antis on your side from leaking onto the Belf / pro voidy Velf threads.

/claps

Bravo!! Tell that to the guys -like the monk- trying to tell other people in the ā€œBelves deserve some unique stuff in compensationā€ thread how ridiculous they look.

Ouch!!!

Yes, IĀ“m aware of that. how does that contradict my point? you people getting one or ALL the Belf hairstyles or colors is irrelevant as long as you get one.

And you will get 5 at least soā€¦ no point in arguing with you about that. You people abstaining from participating in the Belf / pro Voidy Velf thread to bring your ā€œmuh not 100% copied Belfā€ issues WILL be win enough for me.

I have a better idea: keep the very design of the Warpaint DIFFERENT between Velves and Belves, so none of the races see their color options arbitrarily limited (why shoulnĀ“t a Belf player get to use blue with their mage or black with their DH? Why shouldnĀ“t a Velf player get to use Red with his Warlock or yellow with his priest?. ItĀ“s quite self defeating to say "MOAR OPTIONS BUT only in these and these colors).

In the Belf thread Izzabelle made some warpaint mockups inspired in the HORDE warpaint available for Trolls and Orcs. And let me tell you: it is GODD ENOUGH to differentiate between Alleria inspired warpaint and Belf exclusive warpaint. The fact the lore can suppoort this (Belves have had interaction with the Horde races in close quarters literally LONGER than they did with the Alliance andthe Humans. And no, joining forces just to go their separate ways and rejoin centuries later is NOT a point in favor of Alliance / Belf interaction).

Feel free to check IF you care.

100% agree. See? is NOT hard to device exclusive features between both races. and both get the stuff, just in their own exclusive way.

Already exists dude, you can thank Fen for creating and nurturing it. ItĀ“s a marvelous work If I say so myself.

Thank God, Belves donĀ“t need copy/pasted Velf stuff to support a more ā€œuniqueā€ model (some posters are in favor of haircut exchange; personally I donĀ“t care about that. I donĀ“t hate it but I do think some other unique stuff should be given first, not this massive Copy/Paste exercise from point B to point V and vice-versa, cause thatĀ“s just praising the devs for literal lazy implementation). IĀ“ve provided the idea of Blood magic as the true unique venue for Belves (after all, no matter how much people argues about, Blood magic IS a ā€œonly for Belvesā€ BECAUSE the Dark Animus IS the conditional to use it. And Velves donĀ“t have access to the Dark Animus).

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Indeed, and arguing with someone pretending to be a junior high shakespeare production is not worth mine.

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