Void Elf-High Elf Customization Thread

[Leinadh-stormrage]

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

I honestly believe it would still feel too similar, but I do think that would be an easier compromise for me personally rather than seeing Void Elves get the Blood Elf hair colors.

I get that, believe me. And to be fair, I would prefer unique colors for Void Elves as well instead of copying and pasting them over from Blood Elves. But I’m afraid that’s what devs would do eventually, cause it’s the easy route. Look at how they gave us regular skin tones. :-S

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

I would want to see a new High Elf model if we had to see High Elves on the Alliance, but that probably wouldn’t happen.

This is something most of us wanted in the past. Maybe we were too naive to think they’d design a new model for High Elves. We also discussed the possibility of having Half Elves instead. I was okay with this last suggestion, in fact. But then Void Elves were announced, so our suggestions were basically thrown out the window. lol

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

It does come down to a feelings thing for me unfortunately. I don’t have a lot of lore or facts or interviews to back me up. It’s mostly just a, “I don’t want to see my race on the opposite faction” thing.

Well in the end (and in my opinion, of course), feelings is actually the only legitimate reason to be against High Elves or Void Elves with natural options (or any other suggestion). Lore can always be retconned sadly as seen these last years, so arguing purely on the basis of lore, to me, is quite frankly a waste of time.

But the way someone feels shouldn’t be questioned ever. I get that there are many people who value faction races being visually discernable from one another, and I find it reasonable to voice your opinion on the matter, even if it’s against it. And you in particular have actually contributed with other suggestions, and Izzabelle as well with a few nice mockups. I appreciate it.

Regarding natural hair colors, I just want any sort of shade of a natural color. It doesn’t need to be the same as Blood Elves. In fact I wouldn’t mind that natural hair colors were tied with Void highlights, for instance. In fact, I think those options are quite cool. And if we could further customize those Void highlights, that’d be even better.

[Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord]

I saw some mock-ups of natural colors given with ombré shades or even void lowlights, etc. I find those to be a good compromise, but then it opens a whole new door of other races also wanting multi-colored hair. I think trolls are the only ones right now that have a highlight?

[Seiku-wyrmrest-accord]

Pandas get them in a way.

[Leinadh-stormrage]

@Midare-area-52

With the same abilities of a paladin.

Yeah, for gameplay purposes, that’s how it would work.

@Midare-area-52

So yeah, a mockery of a paladin.

Let’s just agree to disagree I guess.

@Midare-area-52

And you’re forgetting that for something like that to even happen, Void Elves would need to get paladins in the first place since Void Knights don’t exist anywhere.

That’s true. I guess Void Elves would only be able to choose the class skin instead of the regular normal Paladin option.

@Midare-area-52

I know you love twisting things for your convenience

The projection is big here.

@Midare-area-52

You can have any opinion you want, but just as you can have those, you should expect pushback.

I don’t mind pushback. Like I said, it’s okay that you don’t like the idea. You quite literally questioned if “I had a say” on suggesting class skins, meaning that you do not think I have a say on it. And I do, we all do have a say on anything we’d like for this game. Whether we like what is proposed or not is a different story.

@Midare-area-52

I like it when you try to appear wholesome, it only makes it so much more funny when the true colors begin to shine.

It’s funny cause people who know me know that’s how I am in real life. lol I tend to see the positive things in life. I understand you think I’m this evil hypocrite trying to make other people’s lives miserable. I understand it because of the heated discussions and troubles both sides have had in the past, where I’ve been involved. I did apologize for that behavior of mine, several times by the way. In the end and as you grow up, you minimize and relativize many things after you lose somebody you deeply loved, so yeah. There’s not much left I can do other than keep posting what I deem appropriate without violating the CoC. I can’t do much if you wish to continue thinking of me that way, that’s your choice ultimately.

@Midare-area-52

Void is the theme of Void Elves. There’s literally no race that has the connection with it as them (despite the attempts of pretending this is not the case cough). It would absolutely only fit them and them alone.

Void Elves do not have a monopoly on the Void only because they are Void Elves. I’m not sure how to explain this any clearer.

[Leinadh-stormrage]

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

then it opens a whole new door of other races also wanting multi-colored hair

And that should be a thing as well! Ideally we should be able to customize multi-colored hair with a color wheel option… but knowing Blizzard… xD

[Greatbrae-dalaran]

The ideaof a void paladin would ruin the classes lore, one of the few classes that remained faithful to the original warcraft lore.

[Zucchininee-emerald-dream]

@Leinadh-stormrage

Ideally we should be able to customize multi-colored hair with a color wheel option

Honestly this. I’m not asking for in depth FFXIV customization levels but this would be such a satisfying thing to implement.

[Leinadh-stormrage]

@Greatbrae-dalaran

The ideaof a void paladin would ruin the classes lore, one of the few classes that remained faithful to the original warcraft lore.

The idea would be a Void Knight class introduced as a class skin tied to the normal Paladin class (it’s not a Void-infused Paladin). But Midare is right in that, in order for Void Elves to have access to the class skin, they should first receive the normal Paladin class. So I’m no longer sure how that would work. :-\

[Greatbrae-dalaran]

On the paladin. Which has 0 to do with the void. Especially on a class skin which you need to accept won’t be on as default, which would mean we would haver light tossing void elves, and if you do not know, void is this games “darkness” magic, which is the opposite of a paladin as stated in the games lore.

And this is all without getting into the nitty gritty of how void magic is used vs. Other magics. You can’t do with the void as easily and readily as you could do with light magic and vice versa.

[Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord]

You’re right! I forgot.

@Leinadh-stormrage

customize multi-colored hair with a color wheel option… but knowing Blizzard… xD

We will never get wheel options. Haha even if they would be good

[Zurogrusel-darrowmere]

There’s a large list of people I’d kill for WoW to get BDO level of customization

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Seiku-wyrmrest-accord

Not even just from MoP, Belves started teaching blood knights blood magic in bfa also, not only because of their work with San’layn in bfa, but also because of that invasion quest in Nazmir where the blood elves are using the trolls blood magic.

You have an actual source on this or are you just drawing more headcanon from a vague WQ?

Cause that doesn’t happen.

@Muir-kelthuzad

For your first paragraph I think there was some data mining of a system like that where the broadcast text would change to refer to a sub race like “high elf” or “wildhammer”. I don’t think much came from it I’ll have to find the links again once I’m off work.

Pretty sure that was only a player made thing.

I’d be curious if you do find anything though.

@Seiku-wyrmrest-accord

Look up the quest cleansing tide, its all right there in the open, pools of blood magic being summoned, the bloodfused warcrushers, the sanguine knights, the sanguine champions. Its all pretty readily available.

Yeah did that one a lot.

Nothing like what you said is happening there except that they are using blood magic…

No blood knights are being taught… They’re being empowered by the rituals but that’s all.

Theres also no link to the San’layn there.

@Seiku-wyrmrest-accord

Like dont get me wrong bfa had this nasty narrative habit of hiding story from the factions- but i absolutely think blood elves should get more rubies on their body jewelery, not just emeralds

All of this though. The things you see playing both sides rather than one.

@Silabivn-wyrmrest-accord

Damn, do you think that guy is part of the Silver Covenant?

He has no relation to the SC.

@Leinadh-stormrage

I would love to be able to choose Void visual effects for my Mage, so as to show that my Mage is using both the Arcane and the Void. Imagine Void Frost spells. Or even better… VOID FIRE spells. I’m drooling.

Kinda wish they’d utilize the glyph system for almost all abilities like that.

More flexibility and more use for a profession.

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

Your attitude is super yucky

Not sure what that particular posters issue is. They’ve been weirdly hostile since they got here…

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

You’re doing the same thing as the guy above, trying to instigate more drama once things have already settled down in discussion.

That one often seems to want drama.

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

Umbric for Warchief.

Wait…

Umbric for Warchief!

What? The Alliance could do with a Warchief.

@Silabivn-wyrmrest-accord

I’ve only been matching the attitude set out earlier. I can understand what you mean by that but by no means am I a professional anything. Some of the red posters here have been combatative from the word go, if you truly dislike my aussie tier ribbing then I truly apologize.

Don’t return it.

Just makes you look like a fool.

Too many go eye for an eye here.

@Silabivn-wyrmrest-accord

Thormus

Thormus isn’t very good at proving his points though…

Muir does pretty well even if I don’t agree with him on every point… Even Lore is far better than Thormus.

@Silabivn-wyrmrest-accord

Perhaps your eyes have rotted into nothing behind those suitably rose tinted glasses, my tree burning friend.

Dude… That’s an avatar not that actual person. Lol

@Seiku-wyrmrest-accord

The Riftblades are who you’re looking for.

This is why I lean more towards glyphs. Riftblades have warrior abilities with some void looks to them.

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

I saw some mock-ups of natural colors given with ombré shades or even void lowlights, etc. I find those to be a good compromise, but then it opens a whole new door of other races also wanting multi-colored hair. I think trolls are the only ones right now that have a highlight?

Some of the ones in my thread have interesting promise.

The white blonde with tinges of copper in its roots and tips for instance.

And I’m not one to like the natural colors on void elves but that one manages to be both unnatural and I think close enough to make someone wanting to be a high elf content at least.

[Seiku-wyrmrest-accord]

I pointed out the quest and the names of the mobs, San’layn are revealed during the alliance quest line, sylvanas is brokering sone deal with them that ends up getting them killed (by shandris i believe)

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

Yeah. I’m saying you’re drawing a lot from nothing.

The San’layn aren’t involved with any blood knights and in the WQ you mentioned blood mages are using troll blood reseviors to empower their troops.

That’s it.

No ones being taught among the Blood Knights and there is no San’layn connection there.

(and you the hero end up killing most of the San’layn not Shandris though its her mission.)

[Seiku-wyrmrest-accord]

They literally have blood knight units there called sanguine knights what are we supposed to infer them to be if not a rank of blood knight?

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

How do those names justify claiming they’re blood magic users?

Rank, randomly applied mob name, or just a signifyer of unit doesn’t suggest in any capacity that they’re being taught to use blood magic when it’s blood mages literally empowering them in the same place.

[Muir-kelthuzad]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Pretty sure that was only a player made thing.

I’d be curious if you do find anything though.

Nah, I believe it was MrGM from Twitter who datamined it. Unfortunately idk how to search the history of a specific user twitter so it would take a lot of scrolling to get back to 2020/2019 where it popped up

That others here remember tends to give some truth to it. Maybe I’ll try when I’ve not been up for 3.5 hrs after an exhausting 12 hr shift @_@

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Muir-kelthuzad

Nah, I believe it was MrGM from Twitter who datamined it.

Hmm. I’ll take a look myself.

@Muir-kelthuzad

That others here remember tends to give some truth to it.

A large group of people remembered high elves being specifically stated as light skinned in the WCII manual too but that was never true.

Still it definetly makes it more likely since several folk seem to remember it.

@Muir-kelthuzad

Maybe I’ll try when I’ve not been up for 3.5 hrs after an exhausting 12 hr shift @_@

Ooof.

Go sleep, don’t worry about it.

I’ll see if I can find it on my own.

[Muir-kelthuzad]

Not exactly the topic, but he datamined this, perhaps customizable EE forms in the future?

MrGM

So it could’ve been around early 2020

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Ooof.

Go sleep, don’t worry about it.

Haha, thank you friend. After some food!

[Muir-kelthuzad]

Also…

✨Escalusia @ Art ✨

So VE and BE do share hair textures?