Okay but in terms with ability to keep up with the story it isnt really as relevant as say idk maybe in WOTLK?
If you’re arguing against BEs and Forsaken being allies like yeah it seems at this point especially with Sylvanas no longer a factor in that to be irrelevant, Lorthemar didn’t like Sylvanas at one point, like okay? As recent as the heritage quest he sugar coats his thoughts and post BFA she’s gone so your points are moot and really only serve to show a bias on opinion in terms of your thoughts / issue with Blood Elves being Horde.
The Alliance unknowingly helped fuel the jailer too, I wonder what they feel? What does this even mean in context of what you’re trying to build a case for lol.
This is speculation, yes, but it can be deduced from:
1 Original void elves were transformed by the ritual.
2 There are non-transformed high elf wayfarers that are learning to master the void after the transformation.
3 It was initially not possible to play un-tainted void elves.
Again this is all speculation, but it stands to (speculative) reason.
The High elves of Quel’lithien lodge were not a part of the Alliance, or Horde - Even after the lodge was destroyed they remained neutral.(And can be found in multiple locations) In fact one of their leaders is still a killable target for both factions.
Highvale High elves also do not practice magic, and have taken an interest in the light after some Draenei began to reside at their lodge. Considering their detatchment from magic in general, and their new association with the light (and return of the Sunwell) They would likely not be too keen to start associating themselves with the void.
It’s also worth pointing out that corrupt leaders from within the Forsaken ranks have been exposed, and rooted out so any conflicts of interest that might have arisen from it have likely been placated.
I don’t think any High elf penitent in the light would want to associate themselves with the void, especially those with strong ties to the Sunwell like Auric Sunchaser.
It makes sense for the pro-Auric crowd to stay with frost magic, like this guy:
Frostfencer_Seraphi
But it also make complete sense that he wants to prevent the horde from getting azerite, and that his team is name Auric’s Angels. Where can he do that? Well, he has to join the alliance, or an alliance proxy.
Nice attempt at a gotcha, you tried having explicit text of personal relationship with one person to argue that effects BE relations to this day and yeah that wouldn’t be relevant for what you were trying to argue.
Named NPCs existing to show a pattern isn’t exactly the same thing unless say they no longer exist. And the named mage trainer with HE customizations is new.
I’d like to point out that despite having the group name “Auric’s angels” they’re not actually associated with Auric Sunchaser, who remains a High elf representative for the Blood elves at the Sunwell.
Auric, and the High elves from Allerian Stronghold have strong ties with the light, which is why the very first place they go after Outland is the Sunwell.
Yeah point taken. But it shows that the legacy can be claimed in contradictory ways by different people. At the very least we can same there are some high elves who interpret themselves as being continuous with the high elven culture instead of separating like the Sin’dorei.
You’re trying to use a story with explicit text to state BEs and Forsaken aren’t friends. The text is from like WOTLK era, and we have lore that suggests the story has progressed, Lorthemar sugar coats his opinion of Sylvanas and then eventually the Forsaken are like everyone else betrayed.
So yes what you were attempting to use to argue isnt relevant.
If you can find something that still has relevancy then obviously use it.
You have unnamed NPCs for gameplay mechanics you’re speculating on.
Theres no current lore to suggest this trend of HEs returning has stopped, and when it comes to Lathysra Goldenstar she’s actually new so it reinforces what I was saying still being the case.
Theres a way to use older arguments to build a current argument without being disingenuous and ignoring current situations
Can you name them? Or are they just generic NPCs for game play reasons
Where is your proof of their existence?
The SC isn’t Alliance
I wonder who told you to bring that old story up in this conversation? Did it happen in another thread I’d like to see the conversation if it was in a thread sounds like a good read.
Without looking her up there’s a lore reason for a few rare sited High Elves on the Alliance. So your one is a rare site, named NPCs showing HEs returning home has some interest to me doesn’t that interest you?
Were you not going to answer this? Kinda disappointed I’m so curious who originally had this argument and told you to make it, I thought it was in this thread but can’t seem to find it?
