Visions as holy priest makes me want to quit

Horrific Visions are more difficult for certain specs.
Their abilities don’t match up well with the content.
My spec, for instance.

Here, same reply fits same quandary.

Oh you better not check her logs then…

Listen Nasuuna, holy is more then capable of soloing visions. Can you full clear with 5 masks? Maybe not. But you definitely can complete the weekly.

This is solo content. You’re not doing “reaction” based healing. You’re pressing all your dps spells ON CD and smiting as filler. It’s that simple, I’ve done many visions as holy.

Use crucible of flame major too. The trinket from rustbolt (which I don’t even have). Music Box from Waycrest. It’s that easy

You are playing a class. Not a spec. It’s your fault that you’re limiting yourself.

What!!! One of the main constants of an RPG is to pick a class!!!

You can complete visions as disc!!! You bring the class, not the spec!

They won’t cater to your wants when you already have the possibility to click twice to change spec.

Oh? Can’t check right now but care to share?

Yes, and sticking with your spec is fine.

Specializations are just an extension of classes. You are specializing in doing one thing. Switching specs is just wow meta. It should be perfectly viable to play a single spec.

You have it backwards. You think because it’s an RPG that should mean you should get to play whatever you want AND be able to do everything. That is the opposite of reality.

It’s your choice to play an RPG the way you want, but limiting your choice limits what you can do. That’s how it works. There’s no point for an RPG that to allow everyone to be capable of doing everything regardless of their choices because that defeats the purpose of an RPG. If your choices dont matter then why have them?

I am not here to shame anybody, I just think Nasuuna should be more open to other people’s advice on how to play holy in visions.

Was a really silly thing to say. Of course other people play holy.

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Her healing numbers are bad, basically. Probably not entirely her fault, it looks like her guild overheals content pretty badly.

It is. Group up with people and you’re good to go.

Unless the guild is wiping to lack of heals, heal logs are pretty bad to gauge the quality of a healer.

That’s literally the mindset of spec switching. I stick to one spec because that’s how I’ve defined my character.

I find the fact that you’re sifting through my logs looking for ways to personally attack me pretty gross.

In fact, I find this entire thread pretty gross. Making holy more viable for visions hurts literally no one. The only people I can think of who would be against such a thing are people who are spiteful and have social issues that keep them from being able to empathize properly.

Grouping is next to impossible due to the mechanics of visions, which is what I am asking to be changed.

Yeah that’s why I said that it’s probably not her fault. My healing parses arent great either, as my guild overheals content too. Too many gm’s who want healers to heal stupid, so they bring too many. However, I mostly run in the 98th percentile for dps parses as resto, so I’m making good use of my globals.

Shield yourself, sw:pain or purge the wicked or we it is on everything, smite spam and penance on CD.

Soloing as disc is ridiculously easy compared to healing with it.

Me, I just tried one in my 400 havoc demon hunter. Had to go vengeance, first pull almost floored me. Then almost ran out of sanity trying to kill alleria. Had 0 issues on my mage. Wth.

People who get to do everything by switching specs (and talents, and powers, and essences…etc) are people who are putting in more effort and therefore seeing more reward for it.

Weird. Lots of people seem fine to group for it.

Hi, you’re new to WoW I guess? When people are making comments about pve content, the first thing anyone should do is go check to see if they have any basis for their claims, which involves establishing credibility-which is what logs exist for.
As for the empathy thing, that’s just lulzie. Go play a competitive team sport like hockey or football, and then you’d have some idea what a real lack of empathy is.

Any complaint about visions themselves is 100% a L2P problem. Mage tower 2.0 lol.

No it will not be changed, no it will not be made easier. It is a challenge, either adapt and overcome

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Honestly, I just find it funny that so many people don’t even realize HV are a ploy to improve dap. Why do you think they’re gated behind dailies in the first place? It’s so you’ll do the dailies. Because the time you spend doing them is daily active played which is what stock holders care about.

The difficulty of visions themselves I have no problem with. My entire ask was to remove the time gating which is only being used to artifically increase play time and as a side effect makes soloing the meta. Without the time gate, pugging would no longer be a high risk situation while still providing the same level of difficulty to reward allowing healers to earn cloak ranks by filling their role.

Wait… What about dailies and world quests. What masochist quests in gimped damage specs for solo content. I used to be a tank but i got so tired of a VDH 90% dps parse being a whopping 12-18k in 8.2 at a mere 33% of the damage of havoc and yet behind every other tank i swapped. I thought that was bad, but does Holy even do any damage? i thought disc was the damage spec, but then it got nerfed for raids but yet M+ is the content 90% of content that people seem able to do these days. Maybe balance should be done by M+ instead of raiding since 20 man raids are just too impractical in a game that went from 12 M people, 10 man raids, 2 tiers to 4 tiers, 20 man raids, no people. Dead server raiding. Even on a highly populated server you’re lucky to get 1-3 mythic guilds, medium pop, hah good luck. Everything is like a 62 server pop runescape 3 ghost town after they launched the EoC.

There’s just no way to do quests in wpvp and not get ganked if you’re trying to solo something with 10k dps and a sitting duck with no kill potential.