Vault will require 3/6/12 Delves in 11.1

I’m not arguing it doesn’t. But someone else said something that brought that up for me.

In my original post where I offered a solution, I started by mentioning I barely interact with it and laid out my “solution” in the vein of “if you’re not part of the solution you’re part of the problem”. I try to never complain about something unless I have an idea for someone to start from.

“average player” wth is this? can you explain. but with freaking sciencey statistics.

You are giving me an example that is anecdotal that is based on your own feelings.
please get real.

And how many times has Blizzard nerfed the encounter to make sure HoF got filled. Or whatever that other one after Hall of Fame is for guilds who kill the mythic boss.

Point being, it was designed for the best and when it proved too hard for the best they made it slightly easier until the best could complete it, but by then others got good gear and access to good WeakAuras. That’s more the fault of the top guilds not being good enough to beat it before it was too nerfed if we stop to think about it for a second.

Have you killed Mythic Queen before all the nerfs and >10% buff? Then you’re one of the best.

Oh, you’re not? Then you’re the average player

rofl, so you think anyone who cannot kill queen mythic is average.
hahaha. mate you are an idiot.

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Yes. Because even I took down Heroic Queen and I’m nowhere near good :rofl: I’m average by every measure so if you can’t do better than me you’re average by definition

Except your solution isn’t one because delves are supposed to be viewed for delve players (in isolation.)

So any increases to rewards (like mythic track vault) simply results in that group of players being bored at even higher ilvl. (Because time played will be the same.)

Nerfs happen irrespective of HOF, although sometimes Blizzard overshoots (like Tindral.) So not many actually.

Yes, mythic is multiple difficulties under the same name.

I’d say killing Queen at all makes players better than the rest by a significant margin. It’s a spectrum.

You don’t have to get CE for accomplishments to be worth anything.

again, you are giving me an argument that is based on your emotions and experience.

It is the truth for you, but may not be for someone else.

Is it the education system? or social media? what’s going on these days. Everyone is talking gibberish.

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Idk, but I am not from the current generation and my education came during a period of time where a person was taught to think for themselves. And that’s what I do. I take what others say and I believe half and have to sleuth the rest out.

But you’re right, I’m speaking from my experience, but so do you. Whether you realize it or not. Everyone does, it’s nearly impossible to speak from someone else’s experience :rofl:

Then how on earth do you come to the conclusion that CE (after 10%) = average player?

Yea I have no idea what you mean by CE. If you mentioned it before it didn’t register to me and I apologize. Can you explain “CE”?

That’s true it is my experience and emotions, but I have never claimed anything as big as yours.
“cannot kill m queen = average player” is a bit bold.

You don’t even know what CE means?

You’re out of your league.

Considering Heroic Queen is the curve for the “average player” yes I feel safe in judging “average” or better based on Heroic Queen

you are still talking gibberish.

It’s not like there are seven bosses if people didn’t skip anything between Heroic Queen and Mythic.

Classic gatekeeping.

Maybe I am but I can’t play on the same field if you’re not going to allow it to be a level field. So I’ll ask again, care to explain “CE”?

Are yall saying you only do delves for a vault reward, and dont enjoy doing them for the love of the content?

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Someone’s been proven wrong and can’t handle it :rofl: have a good day friend. And enjoy torturing yourself in a raid intended for better players than you. I’m happy settling for Heroic but won’t judge you for how you play. Just wish you luck in your endeavors

Proven wrong with your emotions, indeed, yeah bud. you are one of a kind.