Vanilla in 2024. Worst itteration of wow ever?

I just pasted your name into classic logs.
https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/whitemane/absolutekek?zone=2006

If you have no Era toons, then you are just making stuff up about Era GDKPs and are just trolling.

You clearly don’t understand how parses are calculated. Realize there are tons of bis players raiding and most aren’t getting 99s.

We have a true retail player here - go enjoy your $90 mount before the dopamine wears off.

We need a fresh server for sure. At least the option to roll on a fresh server would be nice. I think vanilla might actually be the best version of the game, we just need a fresh start.

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“This warrior has the same name as you, it must be you.”

Me: “I have no warriors”
You: “Oh, you have no era toons.”

This is your brain on GDKP.

BTW, I have spent nothing but my $15 sub on retail and I’m positive that is not the case for you on era. Also haven’t played retail since BFA. I don’t like the game, but it feels WAY more fair than RMT-Classic.

Most of this has to do with factors of the fight and the total DPS of the raid. Like failing to kill before a phase that will lower your DPS. All the sudden it’s impossible to parse well. It really works the same exact way in retail even though there are many other factors. You slap your WA rotation on the screen and you do simulation DPS. PVE is easy. Not sure why I’m explaining this to you.

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  1. You make a claim about my studies of math while making a bold claim that is easily proven wrong with a counter example. Please try to be rigorous if you want to go down that road.
  1. Please look at the operatior ‘if’ I used and try to understand what it means. You are welcome to share you era’s toon name if you want me to see you as less a clown than I currently do.

This is still false because one can easily assume more or less equal raids and gear - and then wow magically skill becomes important.

Nobody cares what the bottom / mid tier players parse - the top players are competing between themselves and all have bis gear / good raid groups.

People cheat. News at 11.

Yes. Which is why banning GDKP has been so effective in SoD. Because it removes the incentive to cheat.

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Right, because gold buyers never use the auction house :clown_face:

Gold buying is as old as WoW itself. You think fresh 60s haven’t always been swiping for epic mounts, purple boes like lionheart helm, etc?

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Shh you will ruin his fond memories.

Vanilla ERA is the clear picture of what vanilla looks like when you let gold buying, rampant botting and GDKP abusers and lazy “supposedly Vanilla enjoyer” get boosted from level 10 to 60 by being AFK. Than you have the nostalgic wave riders screaming for “fresh” just to abandoned the game when they hit level 40 and what you have left is the remaining playerbase repeating what is happening in ERA for 5 years. A complete farce.

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The 12 arcanite bars for Lionheart in SoD cost a grand total of 72 gold on Horde at the moment. It’s hardly something you need to buy gold to afford. You can get 72 gold fairly easily just by playing the game.

On Classic Era, the 12 arcanite bars alone would cost 2,160 gold. This much gold is extremely difficult to obtain by playing the game normally. Much more incentive to buy gold on Era.

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Didn’t know removing GDKP turned cheaters into honest human beings. Now if they would only get rid of raiding, pvp, the AH, epic mounts, etc maybe we wouldn’t be playing the worst MMO on the planet.

I think this statement best sums up the misconception that I see run prevalent in antigdkp’rs stance.

I don’t see a lot of gold buyers in the gdkp scene like a year or two ago.

Worst case scenario, We got degens running raids 7 days a week with 7 different alts.

Casual guy with a fresh character comes here complaining that he can’t compete and figures that everyone must be buying gold.

Not sure what you point is. GDKPers are some of the lowest forms of worm-like intelligence you can find. If you ban RMT, these guys aren’t going to suddenly learn how to hack WoW.

It’s the opposite. They are turning themselves into pixel slaves in order to compete in the RMT economy, and they are being farmed like animals by the people who do know how to hack WoW.

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I came back with a fresh sub and transferred a character to the whitemane cluster…

I cant for the life of me find a guild. Too much GDKP spam and gold seller spam.

Also have been in GDKPs before my break I can confirm these people who always GDKP are peak brain rot and the most annoying type of humans to deal with. You know from the first sentence out of a GDKPers mouth how a run is going to go based on tone and what was said…

Some of these people have a rod up their rear end so deep they give lawyers a run for their money with how shtick they sound. Condescending attitudes all through a run and for what? No reason to treat others like they do.

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I think I’m starting to see the pattern. Is business just not quite booming, boys? Some other RMT rats eating your cheese?

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Lol. Can’t figure out the point but insults other people’s intelligence in the same sentence. Amazing.

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Ill put on my surprised face.

Um. Ok. I don’t care for GDKPs. My solution is to not do them or pay any mind to them or the people who engage in them.

That would be my advice to everyone else who hates GDKPs.

RMT is already against the rules and you can be banned for it if you get caught. That doesn’t stop people from buying gold in case you havent noticed. That’s my point by the way.

You can implement whatever draconian measures you think are appropriate but its not going to alter human nature. The players have to evolve and thats never going to happen.

GDKPs are an easy target and I dont blame anyone who thinks we’re better off without them but GDKPs are a symptom of a much bigger problem.

Consider me surprised as well. I thought you might have been saying something not completely obvious.

Punishment alters human behavior. It’s why we have laws and prisons. So the “draconian” measures of banning people who break the rules and making it as hard as possible to bend them are really the only thing Blizzard can be expected to do.

It will also work - which is why the RMTers always fight tooth and nail in every thread to defend their golden goose.

My favorite is boosters who advertise “NO FLY HACKS”. Just lol. WoW in 2024, where your p2w leveling partner has to advertise that he’s not hacking.

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Yeah well you often have to state the obvious when it zooms over peoples heads like it doesn’t exist.

If it was so damn obvious people wouldn’t be whining about GDKPs 24/7 and promising a new dawn in player motivations upon its removal.

Ask any mafioso whether he gives a flying you-know-what about legalities. People who commit crimes are often aware they are breaking the law, the threat of punishment is not stopping them.

Blizzard isn’t overly serious in their enforcement but they do conduct mass ban waves every now and then but the problem persists. They’ve had to ban easily over a million accounts by now. If you were even close to correct, RMT would have been a thing of the past thanks to all that punishment. Obviously, it doesn’t work.