Yes, SoD has layers, tons of bots, and a fully deflated economy - thus nothing can hold value there.
When blizzards removes scarcity for all things that’s what happens (retail is similar). But since everything is accessible and boring, players just buy gold (or token) to skip the grind, and repeat each phase.
So your theory is that people on SoD are buying gold to afford those 5g arcanite bars
But grinding on Era for those 180g bars???
That’s some mental gymnastics!
I used common terms that have fairly understood meaning in economics and explained how the:
The best thing to happen to Era was TBC.
Humbly, in my opinion.
Looking at the the raw numbers its easy to assume that the Era bars are 180g due to inflation (aka lots of gold buying). At a surface level, that would be fair to suggest but the fact that these are two very different games with very disparate populations (among other things) begs that you take a harder look because there could be other reasons or a combination of them.
It turns out, there’s plenty of probable cause not related to inflation or where inflations impact is negligible as is the case with Era.
Our Naxx runs are not GDKP. Naxx is where the big payouts are and the most gold is spent. Gold buyers aren’t going to Naxx in a guild that doesn’t GDKP Naxx.
So no. You actually don’t know what you’re talking about.
Who was your warrior?
Not sure what your thinking but classic has aged like a fine wine what would give it a big boost would be fresh servers.
Typical Naxx pot is worth $1,500. Classic WoW might be the worst P2W MMO to ever exist.
What compels people like you to constantly lie?
Excluding I am not telling any lie; I play Era a lot, maybe too much and the Gold buying is easy to track if you know what to look for.
Be that the gold pot is worth X amount of RL currency is meaningless because the only thing that matters is if people are buying gold to use in GDKP or not.
If you had of posted this 1 year ago the answer I would have given is quite the opposite; 1 year ago lots of gold buying was taking place and that was easy to detect by the raw and insane number of bots farming gold for them to buy.
This year same time there are very few bots in the world by comparison, and I fully agree that gold buying still takes place but the volume of it is drastically reduced VS last year.
Gold buying in “ERA” almost fully died in Dec of 2023 when Blizzard banned the botters; these same botters then turned up on SoD and they’re still there to this day feeding the Soddies and the Cata players. Some say GDKP is banned on SoD but its banned by name only when you look at the logistics of in game botting and where that goes.
Contrast this to Era where Botting was kinda insane from June / July 2023 until Dec 2023, when the botting was just mental… This died off hard like turning off a light switch, and so far it has not come back.
I don’t really like gdkp. I don’t like gold buying or botting at all. However, when you think about this statement. It says a lot, the gear in Naxx from one run is worth 1,500 real dollars to people. In the “worst itteration of wow”???
I guess the answer to my question is “You are rather unintelligent”.
Blizzard did not remove the botters from era and then fail to remove them from SOD/Cata. The botters intentionally moved in order to farm gold where demand is greater.
Right now you can buy Whitemane gold at rate of 3.5 WEEKS of raiding Naxx (spending 0 dkp) for $150. If you think people aren’t spending what is (for many swips) half of a day’s pay to skip a month of raiding in order to get BIS, you’re wrong.
On the other side, financially, you have people who are farming GDKP on half a dozen alts (Korean-MMO-slop style) in order to try to keep up with wallet warriors.
It’s a poor comparison because value proposition is skewed by the completely degenerate mind of an MMO swiper. After all, drug addicts will pay $50 to die on the side of the road. Why is that worth $50?
Watching some of these guys tweak out on youtube when a big item being bid reminds me of my dog when he sees something he wants to chase. Except even my dog has a lot more self control and acts with much more dignity than these giddy greedballs.
Correct, the gold buyers; the people who pay to win moved to SoD and Cata (overall) and good riddance.
You have missed basically missed the point, being that gold buying does take place; I even said that… What I also said is that its way less a thing now than it was a year ago.
You present WMC as it was 1 year ago, when its simply not truly that way as a collective.
They think that that the dozens of naxx runs each week - every one of them has buyers spending 1000s of dollars to convince raiders to carry them.
What they fail to realize is that the majority of raiders are using the gold like DKP and simply having fun exchanging it between themselves.
I would bet decent money that the majority of these upset anti-gdkp players came to whitemane a year ago, bought gold, realized it wasn’t enough and got laughed at all the way to SoD.
Players that buy gold and then perform below their gear level will always stick out like a sore thumb and be a joke to the raid. Sure some will bring them, but one will not make a good reputation for themselves.
I guess what I mean is regardless, if the gold moving around is marketabley worth that much. (which I have no idea if that is true or false value wise.) From one run.
The game must have a decently strong draw, so it seems hard to call it the worst.
Retail/Cata sells game gold, there’s an untold amount of MMOs out there with real P2W elements but our little home of roughly 20k+ players is the worst p2w MMO ever. /s
I was supporting your point 
The ‘they’ I was referring to was the general anti-gdkp poster that refuses to think critically about the issue - like poster who replied to you with:
Apologies if my was unclear
These same players will all magically have some reason that Blizzard shouldn’t implement an official pug DKP system. A reason how, even though thousands of hackers have injected millions of gold into the system; the GDKP system is not only fair but so good that it’s worth any cost of RMT corruption.
The entire point of DKP was that you could only get it by putting time in raid without getting loot. If DKP was awarded only for raiding, but also if you gave your guild leader $50, no one would have tolerated the system. But yet, that’s exactly what we have infesting all of classic wow.
This is also to say nothing of the fact that all non-raiding aspects of the game are utterly destroyed by GDKP + botted gold. You cannot farm anything on era and have it be worth your while over just doing even a single ZG gdkp.
If you have been playing computer games for more than a year, the only thing that matters in this game is gear. It’s embarrassing to see someone try to “skill”-mog people in a game where you literally press one button, all while defending the most RMT friendly and RMT fueling loot system the game has ever had.
PvE isn’t hard, but if you want to parse 99s in naxx you def have to be better.
LOL I looked up your logs on Era - is your warrior from pre-tbc or an alt or are you exactly the gold buyer I was referring to that came last year, bought gold, pumped for a few months, and quit?
No way you’d have that gear in that amount of time without buying gold or being an alt.
I wouldn’t mind an ‘official’ dkp system. But I would probably stop raiding because I mostly do so for pvp consumes or gold for alts.
Not a forum expert, but you can’t see my other characters. I have no warriors on era. Cringe weirdo.
I do, however, have 95%+ ranks on every M+ dungeon this season on this character, and I haven’t logged into retail for 2 weeks. Did most of it as ele with resto itemization and healing enchant on my weapon.
Oh and guess what: